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Subject: Iranian missile boats and Ashm threat
Herc the Merc    12/26/2005 3:59:52 PM
At least 40 Hudong class chinese boats with 80, C-802 missiles, Bushehr class.
 
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Galrahn    Operation Preying Mantis   12/30/2005 5:04:05 PM
FAIR USE NOTICE This post contains copyrighted material, which is reproduced under the Fair Use Provision of Title 17, U.S.C. Section 107, and is posted for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research. This material is posted without profit for the benefit of those who, by accessing this post, are expressing a prior interest in this information for research and educational purposes. Proceedings, U.S. Naval Institute 66 (May 1989) © 1989 United States Naval Institute The Surface View: Operation Praying Mantis By Captain J. B. Perkins III, U.S. Navy For the escorts of Battle Group Foxtrot, preparations for the 18 April 1988 Operation Praying Mantis began in the southern California operating area ten months earlier. From this first underway period as a unit, the Battle Group Commander, Rear Admiral Guy Zeller (Commander Cruiser Destroyer Group Three) had insisted on a rigorous set of exercises to prepare for the upcoming tour on station in the North Arabian Sea (NAS). Initially, the ships drilled hard at interpreting rules of engagement (ROE) and at devising means to counter small high-speed surface craft (e.g., Boghammers) and low, slow-flying aircraft-both of which abound in and around the Persian Gulf. We later added exercises stressing anti-Silkworm (an Iranian surface-to-surface missile) tactics, boarding and search, Sledgehammer (a procedure to vector attack aircraft to a surface threat), convoy escort procedures, naval gunfire support (NGFS), and mine detection and destruction exercises. We practiced in every environment-in the Bering Sea during November, throughout our transit to the Western Pacific and Indian Ocean, and on station in the NAS. During the battle group evolution off Hawaii in January, we executed a 96-hour Persian Gulf scenario, with a three submarine threat overlaid. We conducted live, coordinated Harpoon missile firings in southern California and off Hawaii, dropped Rockeye, Skipper, and laser-guided bombs (LGBs) on high-speed targets off Point Mugu and Hawaii and drilled, drilled, drilled. By late March, each ship had completed dozens of these exercises, and we were considering easing the pace and working on ways to make the exercises more interesting, as the day approached when the Forrestal (CV-59) battle group would relieve us. Such philosophic discussions ended abruptly when the USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) hit a mine on 14 April. Four battle group ships en route to a port call in Mombasa were turned around, and the USS Joseph Strauss (DDG-16) and USS Bagley (FF-1069) raced north, refueled from the USS Wabash (AOR-5) and steamed through the Strait of Hormuz at more than 25 knots to join teammates, the USS Merrill (DD-976) and USS Lynde McCormick (DDG-8) . They, and their Middle East Force (MEF) counterparts, the USS Simpson (FFG-56), USS O'Brien (DD-975), USS Jack Williams (FFG-24), USS Wainwright (CG-28) , USS Gary (FFG-51), and USS Trenton (LPD-14) repositioned at high speed as the plan was developed. In the NAS, the USS Enterprise (CVN65) closed to within 120 nautical miles of the Strait of Hormuz. Her escorts, the USS Reasoner (FF-1063) and Trurtun (CGN-35), were stationed to counter the potential small combatant threat in the Strait, and the air threat from Chah Bahar. Table 1 U.S. Naval Order of Battle OTC: Commander Joint Task Force Middle East (Embarked on the Coronado) Battle Group Commander: ComCruDesGru Three (Embarked on the Enterprise) SAG Bravo: OSC: ComDesRon Nine (Embarked on the Merrill) USS Merrill (1 SH-2F) USS Lynde McCormick USS Trenton (1 SH-60B) MAGTF 2-88 (4 AH-IT, 2 UH-1, 2 CH-46) SAG Charlie: OSC: CO, USS Wainwright USS Wainwright USS Bagley (1 SH-2F) USS Simpson (1 SH-60B, I UH-60) SEAL Platoon SAG Delta: OSC: ComDesRon Twenty Two (Embarked on the Jack Williams) USS Jack Williams (2 SH-2F) USS O'Brien (2 SH-2F, I UH-60) USS Joseph Strauss CVW-11 CAP/SUCAP Support On 16 April, I flew with Lieutenant Commander Mark "Micro" Cessnock -- my one-officer "battle micro staff"- from the Enterprise to Bahrain at the direction of Commander, Joint Task Force Middle East (CJTFME). Rear Admiral Anthony Less, to assist in planning and executing the response. We were joined on the flagship, the USS Coronado (AGF-Il), by the MEF Destroyer Squadron Commander and began working on the plan with the CJTFME staff and other players. The objectives were clear: Sink the Iranian Saam-class frigate Sabulan or a suitable substitute. Neutralize the surveillance posts on the Sassan and Sirri gas/oil separation platforms (GOSPs) and the Rahkish GOSP, if sinking a ship was not practicable. There were also a number of caveats (avoid civilian casualties and collateral damage, limit adverse environmental effects) to ensure that this was in fact a "proportional response." It was a long night, but by
 
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fitz    RE:Operation Preying Mantis   12/30/2005 5:29:24 PM
Now that's what we're looking for! I'm gonna have to save that one.
 
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Galrahn    RE:Operation Preying Mantis   12/30/2005 10:52:36 PM
ALL you fitz, Thanks for pushing the issue Fitz, I never would have got off my lazy bum and pulled the record had you not insisted. Also helps me identify credible sources... and those that leave something to be desired. I think it is interesting in the conclusion the encouragement to use Standard over Harpoon.
 
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Carl S    RE:Operation Preying Mantis   12/30/2005 11:12:04 PM
I recall how video of the the attack on the oil rigs was released very shortly afterwards. It was grossly misinterpreted by many. Folks who should have known better looked at the pictures of the airbursts around the platforms and drew the conclusion that the USN had poor gunnery skills. Some thought the sole purpose of the Marines boarding the platforms was to destroy them since the USN could not. I also recall being called a liar that year when I told someone the US had sunk several Iranian warships. Apprently they thought they would have been told by Dan Rather if it had actually happened.
 
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fitz    RE:Operation Preying Mantis   12/31/2005 11:05:02 AM
"Thanks for pushing the issue Fitz, I never would have got off my lazy bum and pulled the record had you not insisted. Also helps me identify credible sources... and those that leave something to be desired." Hey, I'm just glad to know I'm not the only one who gets off my lazy butt and actually grabs a book every now and again to prove/disprove a point. On the internet too many times you wonder... Very refreshing. I'll happily discuss anything with you all day long. Wish I could say the same about some others around here.
 
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killer    I was there.   10/5/2007 9:19:19 PM
You can discuss and analysis everthing but pictures are worth a million words and video even more.  I was with HSL-32 Det 2 on board USS Jack Williams (Happy Jack) during this,  We also had a news crew onboard that bounced around from ship to ship.  During the time frame after the USS Simpson hit the mine the news crew did a lot of video.  Lets just say I have one of two know tapes given to Det that shows what those days were really like.  The government says Iran DID NOT fire silkworm missles at US ships because that would be a declaration of war.  My video says different.  I am not even sure the news crew even knew what they had on tape, they just wanted off that ship.  That is ok.  I have mine and I know what happen.  It is even unedited.
Have a nice day.
 
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displacedjim       10/5/2007 11:07:38 PM
Killer, that's great.  I know there are ways to upload videotape into a computer movie file.  Do that, and then post it on YouTube.  Let us know the link to it after it's up.  I definitely want to watch your video evidence of the missile attack!
 
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KlubMarcus       10/15/2007 8:56:00 PM

Killer, that's great.  I know there are ways to upload videotape into a computer movie file.  Do that, and then post it on YouTube.  Let us know the link to it after it's up.  I definitely want to watch your video evidence of the missile attack!



Same here!
 
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Sammy B    Video Needed   11/19/2013 3:46:30 PM
Killer, this is really for you: I am a plankowner/mine survivor on the Roberts. I would love to hear from you about any video you have during that time.
 
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