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Subject: SBS/SAS still the best?
Johnny Frost    5/7/2003 2:44:23 PM
I didnt hear much about the british special forces in Iraq (Not that suprising as silence is UK govt policy I know) but what I did hear sounded a bit worrying. see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2983905.stm . Are they still the world leaders, or are the US catching up. On another matter in Afganistan this time. It was muted in UK papers that an SAS solider was awarded the VC for a cave action in Afganistan, involing an entire squardron of the SAS. Does anyone know any more about this story? is it true?
 
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ForceRecon79    SAS/SBS hasn't been a match for the US since the early 90's.   9/16/2007 11:07:39 PM
Despite the idiotic ramblings of some on this page, even British publications like "Jane's Intelligence" regard US Special Forces and Spec Ops as the best in the world. Their are any number of documented incidents when SAS/SBS incompetence led to Rangers, Force Recon Units, SEALs and Delta units having to rescue British Special Forces from Southern Afghanistan and save them from getting thier "Asses" handed to them by the Taliban/Al Qaida.
 
British units were ahead of the US untill the early 90's, by that time niether the British or even the Israelis have been able to match tthe US in Spec Ops, (or any other military scenario). Any doubts about this can be quelled by the fact that US Special Forces and the US Military routinely whups up on their British counterparts in wargames staged annually. The people on this site need to accept that Britian is no longer a military superpower, America took that title after we rescued Britian from a crushing defeat at the hands of Germany....and despite the desperate wiashes of Soylint Green, and other dellusionals....we still own that title, and will for years to come....deal with it like men and stop whining like little english school girls.
 
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Herald1234    This should be fun.   9/17/2007 12:37:37 AM

Despite the idiotic ramblings of some on this page, even British publications like "Jane's Intelligence" regard US Special Forces and Spec Ops as the best in the world. Their are any number of documented incidents when SAS/SBS incompetence led to Rangers, Force Recon Units, SEALs and Delta units having to rescue British Special Forces from Southern Afghanistan and save them from getting thier "Asses" handed to them by the Taliban/Al Qaida.

 

British units were ahead of the US untill the early 90's, by that time niether the British or even the Israelis have been able to match tthe US in Spec Ops, (or any other military scenario). Any doubts about this can be quelled by the fact that US Special Forces and the US Military routinely whups up on their British counterparts in wargames staged annually. The people on this site need to accept that Britian is no longer a military superpower, America took that title after we rescued Britian from a crushing defeat at the hands of Germany....and despite the desperate wiashes of Soylint Green, and other dellusionals....we still own that title, and will for years to come....deal with it like men and stop whining like little english school girls.



Way to feed the lions, guy.
 
I'm going to enjoy this exchange. Better have FACTS to back up those assertions.
 
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dirtykraut       9/17/2007 2:04:26 AM
Those comments are about as juvenile as any SAS wannabe who creams his pants over embassy siege videos on a saturday night with a cup of hot chocolate in hand. These forums really don't need any more nationalistic fanboys. While I agree that the SAS is the victim of the British media who made them into more than they were, much like our media has done with the SEALS. The SAS, however is an excellent organization and still among the best in the world in SOF.
 
While I am certainly not a believer that all Western SOF units are created equal, it is very difficult to compare units. Saying the SAS is better than US Navy EOD wouldn't make any sense now would it? Even though it's herecy to say this, but there are SOF units that can claim to be the best in their line of work. When one looks at funding, selection, recruitment pools for selection, training, reputation, op tempo and experience the units that come to mind are CAG, SAS, and SASR. However, getting ones prick in a knot deciding over who is best would be an impossible objective task.
 
But one thing I have to ask, is how does it affect you? Wether or not the SAS is the best or not. If you are British or American or whatever does it somehow boost your ego to say you share borders with the best traiend SOF unit in the world? Or have you forgotten that we all descend from East African apes?
 
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5thGuards       9/17/2007 5:55:58 AM
Someone forgot Russian Spetznas or Australian SAS?  You can't possibly say that British SAS is on a higher level of combat capability , just like you can't say that US Delta Force or SEALS are the best , you just can't , all of these special forces have great harsh and long training and they are all very capable
 
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gf0012-aust       9/17/2007 7:23:04 AM

Someone forgot Russian Spetznas or Australian SAS? 

Refer to DirtyKrauts post.  Aust SAS is the SASR.
 
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ens. jack    Been done   9/18/2007 3:49:36 PM
Some idiot posted the question about who is the best spec ops in the world a few months ago. Its still up under special forces or whatever, just look for it and you'll get all the answers you need, moron.
 
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ens. jack    Been done   9/18/2007 3:49:52 PM
Some idiot posted the question about who is the best spec ops in the world a few months ago. Its still up under special forces or whatever, just look for it and you'll get all the answers you need, moron.
 
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ens. jack    Been done   9/18/2007 3:49:57 PM
Some idiot posted the question about who is the best spec ops in the world a few months ago. Its still up under special forces or whatever, just look for it and you'll get all the answers you need, moron.
 
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ens. jack    oops   9/18/2007 3:50:35 PM
now im the idiot.
 
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mough       9/18/2007 5:26:32 PM
This thread is the shnizzille
 
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