to be an effective EMP a nuke has to detonate at suborbital height. i think 60 km was talked about. so that the Compton effect can generate the pulse

I think if you did that,, theyd launch. I would. they would know what comes next, national destruction

it was a spread of 3 mark 8's. 2 hit, 1 in the nose and 1 up the arse.

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Already happened. If for some political reason formal units cannot be used for somethign (say a rescue mission), and contractors are used, even if they are given technical data from official agencies (of whatever country - some countries will sell this stuff - notably Italy), it is quite common to go collect the technical data independently, to be sure the official data is still valid - and not contaminated with disinformation. Most people regard the current material as much more reliable than official, even if it turns out the official data was perfect. Official data is not uniformly perfect, and it never hurts to confirm it, even if you have it. If you can't get it - it is no big deal - you can get the data anyway - 99% of the time.

How about this: The Belgrano was NOT sunk with a modern torpedo!!!! Conks skipper did not trust his Tigerfish - he used a WWII strait runner - with contact exploder.

Naw, the skipper said he had fired a Tigerfish a few weeks earlier - and the wire broke and she circled back at the sub! He didn't want to do that with an ARMED torpedo. So he wanted torpedoes that ONLY ran AWAY from his sub.

More like WWI TDS. But it was quite good. No ONE torpedo could sink her. Four on one side should, on the average day.

Cannot be 60 km. EMP happened in atmospheric tests, and none of the bombers used could even theoretically reach 60 km. The data for each US test is available in US Nuclear Weapons if you want to look it up.

Two hits would be a serious problem for a Brooklyn with proper damage control. But she should have floated, and been towable (the tail hit may have taken out all propulsion).