The surface fleet is in bad shape but the Sub fleet is in great shape , they always have priority to the sub fleet and its still 2nd more powerfull in the world by far.

 

Ok explain this one how does having a good sub fleet  give you power projection, SSN are defensive weapons,

and you even said that the surface fleet was in bad shape, I am not counting the SSBN fleet because they are a

Nuclear deterrent, and yes   the Russians do have some good SSN, but as I said before they have

bad training and that takes down the overall effectiveness of the Subs. The number 1 thing a navy needs to

have real power projection is true ACC and also all the support ships,  that is why the US has 11 full size CVN'S

and is the only real blue water Navy in the world. Now the French Navy is not even in the same league as the US

but can still do a Navel operation simmler to  the falklands with even better resaults by themselves. The Russian

Navy at this moment can not go 10,000 km awy from their shores and project Offensive power.

 

 

"The British sub fleet is arguably boat for boat despite some mechanical and design faults the finest on Earth."

 

Statements like this are nothing more than Anglo-Romanticism.  -Perhaps even a ting of verbal diarrhea.  Honestly, how much information does one believe a non-British citizen possesses on the British Navy?

 

When non-Brits make statements like this ask them how many British Citizens do they know & how many times have they been to Britain.

 

For good measure, ask them how many Naval Exercises or Live Combat Missions have they been on with the Brits....

The french train with UK and US and they think that UK British sub fleet is finest and better than US one.

When US subs commander and officers would stop to be overconfident, stay more in command of a sub and drop their stereotyped tactics, they will maybe take full advantage of their subs which are the best in average.

For now British subs fleet is the finest in average.

As much as US except that UK has been the only one nation to sink a surface combattant with a SSN....

 

 

What were the Germans able to do with their U-Boats?

"The french train with UK and US and they think that UK British sub fleet is finest "

 

I am not saying they are the best or not the best.  I am merely pointing out that some Americans have a love affair with Mother England...

I did not say that sinking General Belgrano was a significant act but only that US can not prevail themselves to a better war/cold war experience.

In Europe, British, French , Dutch, German, and Swedish are at the same global level of professionalism and commitment but British and French train more and in a more diverse way,( including more dissimilar training) on various theaters from Atlantic to Pacific and have performed both war missions (Falkland and Yugoslavia for the french as its was french SSN who were given resposability to block Serbian navy in Adriatic because of their small size of SSN which were better for shallow waters) as cold war missions.

It is a USN assessment.

 

I take that assessment for what it is worth. If you think that is nonsense, then you are entitled to your OPINION.

 

There are only two submarine services who've ever waged successful war winning campaigns. France and Germany are not the nations who waged them.