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Subject: ROK_Navy, do you mind a personal question?
SGTObvious    1/5/2004 10:50:32 AM
Since your English is excellent, I wonder if you were an officer, or a KATUSA soldier? In my experience, this was where the ROK Army had its best English speakers. I was in 2nd Infantry Division, Korea, 1986-87. I did a lot of "Route Reconnaisance"* so I travelled over far more of Korea than the average US soldier and knew it better than most. *mostly, updating maps. You Koreans were always building new things, and we had to keep changing our plans to keep up. On of our plans showed a Battalion "Assembly Area" downstream of a brand new Dam! Bad. We changed it.
 
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ROK_Navy    RE:ROK_Navy, do you mind a personal question?   1/6/2004 4:51:03 AM
Wow! You were in 2nd ID! (In the past post, you said you have been to Korea. So I thought you was in the military service or an english teacher who are intersted in military) I was a middle school student in 1986. Thank you very much for your help. For me, I was neither an officer, nor a KATUSA soldier. I'm just a plain man who likes strategy games - Sid Meier's Civilization things - this hobby urge me to swim in the American guy's web board. My English isn't excellent, but I'm glad to your praise. It's always very pleasing* to read your article. * Yeah! We Koreans are 'palli-palli(hurry up)' people. Sometimes this can make other people embarrassed. :)
 
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SGTObvious    RE:ROK_Navy, do you mind a personal question?   1/6/2004 2:29:11 PM
ROK_Navy, If you were not an officer, or a KATUSA soldier, then I believe your government was wasting a valuable resource! It is interesting that you guessed I might be an English teacher. Although I was a soldier, in my free time I was an English teacher for Korean soldiers. I will never forget Corporal Choi, who always wanted to learn "English Expressions that the Americans use", to use his exact words. One evening, he found me, and he was very happy. He said: "Sergeant, I have learned a new American Expression. I have had such a F*CKING Day!" I said: "Choi, that's not the kind of expression I am trying to teach here." he said "But Americans say that all the time!" While teaching, I also learned, so I still know some Korean, but like I said, I read Korean very (very) slowly. I know how difficult it is for you. Hangul is a logical invention, English is a slowly evolved mess, the world's most disorganized language. Your vowels are very hard for us to learn to pronounce, but our consonants are hard for you to pronounce. Since the Korean language does not permit a word to end with an "unvoiced" consonant, it is very hard for a Korean to learn to say "English" instead of "Englisheh". Good luck! I would like to share with you something. It was in Korea that I leaned to be truly proud of what I was. I was on the DMZ sometimes, and I saw north Koreans. There were 3 defections across the DMZ during my time, including one man who drive a bulldozer across the DMZ. We could see how poor and miserable the north was, and how wealthy and happy South Korea was. It made feel very proud, as a soldier, to protect it. Soldiers protect, and it is a good thing to protect something valuable. The line was so clear. Did you know that from space, from sattelite pictures taken at night, the most visible border in the world is the DMZ? The north, at night, is Black. The South is alive and brightly lit. Sometimes, I think I would like to visit again, but on the other hand, here in NYC we have Little Korea. Well, we have TWO Little Koreas. Civilization is a great game. I never tried Civ III, though.
 
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ROK_Navy    RE:SGTObvious    1/7/2004 6:04:38 AM
Ha ha! It's an interesting story. I think that Corporal Choi could teach you some KOREAN EXPRESSION if you're intersted in it. :) For my previous guess, you said you can Korean and you know Korea far more than average, so I think you must be a people who meets Korean very often. I have been to Canada 3 months, but never been to US. In Canada my english teacher said same words with you "English is somewhat messed up." - especially for non english speaker. And english is much more hard in pronounciation than reading for me as you guys have problems in Hangul as you said. I can read half of post on this board with no problem and the half of others with a caution but there is a post I barely can read. Generally reading doesn't needs much time, but writing takes time for me. (It's difficult to think of "English Expressions" :) and my english was better years ago - same to you) I also saw that pictures. It seems like ROK are an island country, saddly. You have the right to be proud of your noble help. We all thanks of it. I was in the Army.(not Navy - maybe you know from other post) I'm also proud of defending my country. If you can visit Korea again, we can have bottle of beer. Or if I can visit US... Civilization III was the best! It's newly released expansion pack "Conquests" rocks! If you can spare time, it would worth playing.
 
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Ddalgi74    RE:SGTObvious    2/6/2004 11:05:43 AM
I am currently stationed in Korea and the US Army still has the same problem with the on-going expansion of Korea and the Army's outdated map (I call Korea the largest contruction yard in the world). Once I tried in vain to find directions from Camp Humpreys to Camp Market, but they gave me a five year old map that missed three major highways that had been built in those 5 years!! I ended up buying a Korean highway atlas, but because I am one of the few non-Koreans who can read hangul I am always the one who drives around here... My fiancee, who is Korean, also has a hard time speaking and writing English, but she can read it all day long with no problems. She and I usually speak in "Konglish", the mixture of Korean and English... I find it that the more I learn Korean the harder it gets! I am up to the point where I can watch TV news and know the topics and some few keys words. I am supposed to go back to Ft Bragg within the near future and I surely will miss Korean food. Of course my fiancee will make me some galbi, bibimbap or kimchi when I go back to the states, but I will miss it nonetheless. I heard Korean food in the US is expensive, but I don't know. Well, I will miss Korea in general, as I find the people here warm and quite friendly once you open up to them. Cheoneun hanguk saranghaeyo.
 
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SGTObvious    Ddalgi74, Where to find Korean Food in the US   2/6/2004 12:28:24 PM
If you're ever in town, in New York City, there is a large Korean neighborhood around 32nd St with plenty of restaurants. All the signs are in Korean, and you will feel- almost- like you are back in Korea. Some people call the area "little Seoul". And if you can read and speak some Korean you will surpise them- they never expect it.
 
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   RE:Ddalgi74, Where to find Korean Food in the US   2/6/2004 4:27:21 PM
There's a big k-town down in LA. Up here in SF there is good korean food out on Geary in inner richmond (5th-11th aves) There are good markets that sell pre-marinated meats so you can make it at home... -Scottila
 
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HanKim    RE:Ddalgi74, Where to find Korean Food in the US   2/10/2004 8:22:15 AM
hi Ddalgi74, There are some online Korean grocers in the US and there is bound to be a place with a large Korean community nearby North Carolina(that is where Ft. Bragg is, right?). One good source of info on good Korean restaurants is the Korean Student Association at a large State college/university in the area. They tend to know where the good deals are. han
 
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