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Subject: Buisness and the Bush administration
Taliban Killer    4/20/2003 12:21:48 AM
I so hope that North Korea is next on the hit list!! Now that we are done with Iraq, why don't we just pre-emptively attack North-Korea? We should wait for their next provocation (like moving machine guns into the DMZ, attacking S. Korean ships, submarine incursions) and use that as a pretext to attack (they did withdraw from the armistice, after all). It seems to me, if we fly 5,000 sorties in one night, with all the heavy bombers we got (all B-1, B-2, B-52's tht we can muster), wouldn't that wipe out pretty much all missle silos and artilery that can hit Seoul? Maybe reactive 2 or 3 battleships and continously bound their artillery from the sea? After that, we pound untill there is nothing left to pound, and after that, Waltz in from the sea. Any thoughts? (Please spare me the dumb rantings of soar-loosing Ruskies) My feeling is that the reason the Bushies don't want that is because this woould undermine buisness dealings in China ("destabalize" the region). And as well all know, the Bushies are pussies to the buisness lobby. Ah, I so whish John McCain had won that election! He would clean out all the lobbiests that make policy such a mess (maybe kick out the Jewish lobbiests too, so we can finally have an andminstration with the gutts to stop the settlments)
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American Kafir    RE:Buisness and the Bush administration   4/20/2003 7:05:16 AM
[sarcasm on] Damn those Jews they rule everything. Even the universe is bagel-shaped [sarcasm off]
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EastWind_81    RE:Buisness and the Bush administration   4/20/2003 9:53:15 AM
Whatever "Jewish lobby" there is that supposedly "controls" the Bush administration, what reason can you give that it won't also control a McCain administration? If anything McCain would be more popular with the Jewish lobby because of his liberal domestic stance and hawkish view on rogue states.
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Final Historian    RE:Buisness and the Bush administration   4/20/2003 2:39:03 PM
I wouldn't call McCain "liberal" on domestic issues. He is much more moderate than most of his party however. To answer TA, much of the North Korean arty is buried inside cliff faces and such. It would be very hard to take most of it out. We would need all of the planes we have, and then some. There are hundreds of heavy guns pointing at Seoul, and thousands of other ones. And the NK army is still large. Time is on our side, as their military keeps on getting weaker and weaker as their economy falls apart. We can wait NK out. Iran really should be addressed next.
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Phoenix Rising    RE:Buisness and the Bush administration   4/20/2003 2:51:55 PM
1) McCain's stances have been pro-Israel, and I see no reason to think that that would change if he were in the Oval Office; 2) Attacking North Korea is *not* the same proposal as attacking Iraq was, or attacking Syria is. They're in a completely different league and a completely different neighborhood. In addition, without an independent source of income like Iraq's oil was, their government is on the verge of an East-German-style collapse. We'd be better served helping brace South Korea for the economic shock and doing whatever is necessary to ensure that China doesn't interfere in the reconstruction & reunification. --Phoenix Rising
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EastWind_81    RE:Buisness and the Bush administration   4/20/2003 5:14:18 PM
China's already in a good position to capitalize on any non-immediate reunification scenario. They have good relations with SK and despite being harsh on NK refugees, there's a large ethnic Korean population in NE China that will ensure close cultural and economic links to a reunified Korean state. For China it's all a matter of timeframes. If Korea is united quickly due to a East German-style collapse in the North, they lose bigtime - but in practical terms the South might lose even bigger. If unification comes gradually, however, China has a lot to gain. In any case, neither China nor the US should expect the new Korean state to kowtow to their influence. For the first time in centuries, Korean nationalism will be the determining factor on the peninsula.
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