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Subject: ROKN Patrol Corvette sucken by DPRK torpedo boat
YelliChink    3/26/2010 12:10:07 PM
Just happened 2150 Korean local time. Chinese reports say that it was DPRK torpedo boat. The ROKN corvette sunk is probably a 1200t PCC. I can't read Korean so I am not sure which one exactly. At this moment, 59 out of 104 crew have been saved so far. Best wishes to the still missing ones and condolence to families of lost sailors.
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gf0012-aust       5/16/2010 11:02:35 PM
and the CEO of Huawei is ex PLA.
what idiot in State let this happen?
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Hamilcar       5/17/2010 4:25:24 AM

and the CEO of Huawei is ex PLA.


what idiot in State let this happen?



Hillary Rodham Clinton. Think about Bill's ties to the PRC Bandits, GF.  
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VelocityVector    Update   5/17/2010 2:27:45 PM


South Korea on Monday froze funds for government exchanges with the North, a possible sign that Seoul is preparing for the results from an investigation into the March 26 Cheonan warship sinking


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Wicked Chinchilla       5/17/2010 2:57:33 PM
Wonder how long it will take for the North to have another missile test to get that funding back.  Or some kind of exercise.  I doubt they would just sit back and take the hit though, even if they got the better end of the deal face-wise by sinking the Corvette.
As an aside, when this thread hits 50 pages do you think it will attain sentience?  Its almost obscenely big. 
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heavy    More updates.   5/17/2010 3:21:08 PM
SK navy turns back two NorK patrol boats.

Referral to Security Council imminent.
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CFG    Situation seam settle ...   5/17/2010 3:53:53 PM

and the CEO of Huawei is ex PLA.

what idiot in State let this happen?


How do you think one can intervene in Huawei? China is a manufacture hub, now. The world is interconnected, it's different world and one should adapt to that, to think different, even if some think are unchanged since always.
But this is a thread about Cheonan.
Yes,  Wicked Chinchilla is a big thread" align="absmiddle" border="0" alt="" /> People wanted to make connections ... somehow there is good in that ... liked those about HPC (High Performance Computing) and HTC (High Throughput Computing)...
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Not that are changes in the situation, just two (test) cross of the Northern Limit Line. Conflict is not a good option, long duration pressure, economical and political isolation are (good). ...
China might decide to put more pressure ... or NoK become even more unstable. Will see ...
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gf0012-aust    cfg   5/17/2010 10:38:10 PM
reality check. the last clinton in Govt was bad enough.
lets not forget the kh-31
its irrelevant whether they are a global player, if you think that its acceptable to do business with a company who's founder was an ex-PLA general and not assume that there is potential for technology theft across a number of critical security vectors - then I'm not sure whether you're being serious.
the US under 2 clintons has given away security protection.  no amount of political whitewashing can change the colour of that coat
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earlm    Torpedo Screw Found   5/18/2010 9:54:20 AM
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CFG       5/18/2010 11:21:38 AM
Even that are not that realistic, China or Russia sunk scenarios are (theoretical) possible.
Isolation, economical and political, and international sanctions are the way, IMHO. And especially not respond to provocations, NoK will continue to provoke.
That doesn't diminish the need to strengthen the SoK military.
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warpig       5/19/2010 8:07:48 AM
Stand by for the "resolute response" to begin!  Readers with a medical history of heart troubles, please keep your prescription medicines nearby, because you'll undoubtedly suffer a great shock to your system when South Korea and the United Nations decide to really cut loose with both barrels on North Korea.  Both resolute barrels.  Really.

South Korea to blame North for torpedoing warship

May 18, 2010

South Korea will formally blame North Korea for launching a torpedo that sank a South Korean warship in March, killing 46 sailors, The Washington Post reported Tuesday, citing US and East Asian officials.


The officials told the newspaper that an investigation found that the torpedo was identical to a North Korean torpedo that had previously been obtained by South Korea.


The Chenoen sank in the Yellow Sea March 26 after being ripped in two by an explosion that killed 46 South Korean sailors.


Pieces of the warship were put together by investigators from Australia, Britain, Sweden and the United States at the port of Pyongtaek, 40 miles (65 kilometers) west of Seoul.


The Post said South Korea will formally blame North Korea on Wednesday and ask the UN Security Council to take up the issue, pressing for a tightening of sanctions on Pyongyang.


South Korean President Lee Myung-bak also will ask the United States to delay for several years a plan to pass wartime operational control over all forces in South Korea from the United States to the South Korean military, the report said.


The Pentagon declined to comment on the report and the US State Department said they would wait for the end of the investigation before weighing in.





S.Korea wraps up warship probe amid US backing
May 18, 2010


With a strong show of support from its US ally, South Korea on Tuesday wrapped up a painstaking investigation into a naval disaster widely suspected to be the work of North Korea.


A media report said the South has found "decisive evidence" that a North Korean torpedo broke the 1,200-tonne warship the Cheonan in two near the disputed inter-Korean border on March 26, with the loss of 46 lives.


Top officials in the South have dropped widespread hints they believe the North was to blame, although Seoul has not yet formally accused its neighbour.


US President Barack Obama and South Korea's President Lee Myung-Bak called on the North to end its "belligerent behaviour towards its neighbours" but stopped short of blaming it for the sinking.


In a telephone conversation on Monday US time, the White House said, they "emphasised the importance of obtaining a full accounting of the event and committed to follow the facts of the investigation wherever they lead".


The two leaders also called on the North, which abandoned disarmament talks 13 months ago, to "live up to its commitment to eliminate its nuclear weapons programme".


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will visit Seoul next week in an apparent further show of support.


Lee mounted a multinational probe into the sinking to try to ensure its findings cannot be disputed, while the opposition has accused him of seeking a political advantage before local elections on June 2.


The separate sections of the South Korean warship were salvaged last month from the Yellow Sea -- the scene of previous bloody naval clashes -- and the murky waters were scoured for any fragments of a weapon.


"The analysis of metal pieces and traces of explosive recovered from the Cheonan and the seabed led us to secure decisive evidence that there was a North Korean torpedo attack," Yonhap news agency quoted a military source as saying.


The explosive traces have a similar chemical make-up to substances found in a stray North Korean torpedo secured by the South seven years ago, the source was quoted as saying.


The defence ministry refused comment before the official announcement of the investigation's findings.


Yonhap and other media also said a fragment presumed to be part of the torpedo's propeller had been found. Dong-A Ilbo newspaper said investigators have concluded it was from a torpedo made in either China or Russia.


In a rare move, the North announced Tuesday it has called a meeting of its rubber-stamp parliament meeting for next month -- just two months after the previous session.


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