For college/university enroll number, I mean every year more than 5 million freshman/woman enter the universities. So any time about 30 million students stay in the Chinese universities. Plus the collete, the number is about 40 millions.

No Chnese complains that he can't afford to buy a color TV, air-conditioner, or even a car. But a lot of Chinese complain about housing price, tuition fee, medicare/pension plan. Many Americans complain too.

yes . you are right.china has everything.cars,tv's,cell phiones and noodles.but it doesnt have freedom and dignity.so you can now kiss ma a**.

U are right--but that is because Deng opened China while Indi was essentially socialist until early 1990s--a lot of Chinese do not realize that even today Indias economic policies are difficult and more like UK & France--also Chinas economic growth is due to foriegn industrialization of cheap labor. As soon as India gets nuclear power and liberalizes India will get the better projects like Semi-conductor fabs which are banned in China, also India is far more liberal politically--China is better of but nothing that can't be changed in 10years--my prediction is as we move more into the information age Indian companies will takeover others in China as t6he preferred employer--who would you work for today in Shanghai Yakeepi?? IBM, GE (American), Sony??, Hua Wei (Chinese tele major ) or Infosys --Indian software company-- take my advice and join the newly starting Indian software companies in Shanghai-you will be rich.

"I say China and India are at different levels, and many Indians don't understand."-Yakkypiss ---Oh we understand alright. India is free, China is not. Indians speak their mind, Chinese quote the little red book. There are some differences for you. "In any Chinese cities, no slum exists, also no large scale begger problems."-Yakkypiss ---Indeed. The last beggars were shot and dumped into the Yangtze decades ago. And that's urban China. Let's talk about rural Chinese poverty. "Color TV, refrigators, air-conditioner, computer, motorcycle, cell phones..., these items any Chinese can afford to buy, even the poorest man."-Yakkypiss ---Really? Find me the poorest Chinese man and let's see if he has these nice amenities which even some Americans don't have. "The color TV sold in America, though very cheap already, still doubles its price in China, and usually one generation behind Chinese market."-Yakkypiss ---So American TVs are inferior to Chinese ones? I'll take you to Best Buy sometime and let's see how many HD/Plasma TVs are worthy of being sold in an American store. ", not mentioning cell phones, which are the must even for garbage collectors and beggers."-Yakky ---Whoa wait a minute. I thought there weren't beggars in China... "Car is no longer a luxuries stuff any more, most of people can afford, the brand new domestic made car is sold for less than 5K usd."-Yakky ---Well then enjoy your cheap Chinese car. I prefer Japanese or European. "For many Indians, those are still dreams."-Yakky ---Earth to yakky, those are dreams for most Chinese too. "College tuation fees. In 15 years, Chinese college/university enroll number goes from 1 million to 5 millions, and marching toward 10 millions now. College education in China is no longer something only elite can afford. But the tuation fee is really shooting up as well, since graduate eduation is commercialized. Many people complain becasue bulk of their income increase has to be redirected to there, they are not happy." ---Buddy, most Indian parents would starve to death to send their children to a good college. And India actually has world renowned educational institutions which is a field that China has just entered. Read something other than the little red book to realize that. "So the biggest problems for Chinese are housing(not a place to live), education, pension and medicare. These are the industrial society problem China just starts to experience, but many Indians haven't just realized."-Yakky' ---Actually housing, healthcare, education, and pensions problems exist all over the world. An industrial society shouldn't have large scale "housing problems". Bottom line: You and the CCP can build all the empty skyscrapers and patronless shopping malls you want. You will stay imprisoned by your government and eventually, those skyscrapers will fall to a real "people's revolution". -HoH

How much does an average Chinese assembly worker (like in Sony's TV factory make?? India adds a lot of software engineers each year its exports now are $20-$35 billion per year in software in 2020 it will be $400billion or so, and with very few people. Be warned Yakeepi--

>>you are right.china has everything.cars,tv's,cell phiones and noodles.but it doesnt have freedom and dignity.<< LOL, the freedom in slum is not much better than freedom of rats. And a regular Indian lives almost 10 years shorter than a regular Chinese. Who will be jealous of a dead man? Today Chinese tourists flood sourth east Asia, Australia, South Korea, Japan, Europe, and soon you add US. But no Chinese want to experience Indian style freedom, they will rather go to Africa.

>>India adds a lot of software engineers each year its exports now are $20-$35 billion per year<< It's a peanut compared with Chinese export, even Chinese tourist income exceeds that(only count foreign tourists here). The total Indian export is less than Chinese surplus. >>who would you work for today in Shanghai Yakeepi?? IBM, GE (American), Sony??, Hua Wei (Chinese tele major ) or Infosys<< I deal with hordes of Indian engineers from Infosys and Wipro and I know their performance. They are easy to obey instructions but lack the sense of responsibility and initialtive. Indian engineers treat effiency as corner cutting and you have to be extremely careful about what type of work to give them. Put it short, we keep complicated work for our team otherwise the cost will easily double ours even our worker salary is 10 times higher than them. I know how far they can go and I won't work for an Indian company.

"In any Chinese cities, no slum exists, also no large scale begger problems" Which China were you talking about. I had to step over beggers everyday in downtown shanghai and other places. Beggers are out and about until the cops beat them up and put them in jails before shipping them out of the city. No slums? Pretty much every apartment building is a slum. I liked having aunties question my visitors and having my heat/hot water shut off at 9 am everyday too. Then there were the roaches... As for everyone in China buying appliances, chances are you haven't been to the countryside much yakker.

Indian software companies use chinese offices for the same things that the western ones do...cheap programmers. Software design and architecture takes place at those companies Indian headquarters. That is why CHinese students go to India to learn real IT.