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Subject: India vs Great Pakistan
TheOne    10/16/2005 11:18:41 AM
Pakistan--------------------India $2.7 Billion (Yearly Military Expense) $14,018.8 Million 3.9% (% of GNP) 2.4% 17 (Min. Enlist Age) 17 39,793,586 (Available Manpower) 293,677,117 550,000 (Active Military) 1,100,000 400,000 (Frontline Personnel) 800,000 1,012 ( Aircraft) 3,382 3,445 (Armor) 5,112 3,952 (Artillery) 7,169 2,100 (Missile Defense) 7,400 3,025 (Infantry Support) 7,100 And still Pakistan defeated them in 1948, 1965 and Kargil war. I know Indian will start to defend the defeat in above mentioned wars therefore I explain the victory of Pakistan below. 1948 War…Pakistan freed one- third (1/3) Kashmir in 1948 war known as AZAD |KASHMIR which clearly shows that Pakistan won against India. 1965 War…I personally believe that Pakistan won the 1965 war as India invaded war against Pakistan and Pakistan army successfully defend their country. For instant if I accept the Indian claim that 1965 war was a level war, no one win no one lose than I am afraid Pakistan won the war as they fight with 10 time bigger country/army. Kargil War… I can’t stop my laugh when Indians say that they won the Kargil War. Whole world knows that how Pakistan army slaughtered Indian army. Just consider some of the following facts;- Pakistan army was much less in numbers in Kargil war we can explain it in ratio as 1:30 (one man of Pakistan army and 30 men of Indian army) Pakistan didn’t put enough army because they tried to show them as kashmiri mujahidin . Pakistan army only used guns against India (they were not able to use air force, tanks and missile etc as they showed their army as kashmiri mujahidin) and as we all know in response Indian army used air force, tanks, chemical weapon etc and still they can’t beat Pakistan army. Pakistan shot down two of their fighter aircraft and destroyed two weapon stores, number of tanks and countless army members. Might be Indian remember when government decided to celebrate Kargil war anniversary and opposition criticized them by saying ‘you want to celebrate your defeate?’ Indian should be thankful to their DAD Bil Clinton who saved them otherwise???? You know better… One more thing whenever Pakistan fight against India Pakistan fight on his own but Indian fight with the help of their DAD America and granddad Israel. Indian can only win in propaganda war by the help of their DAD and granddad. please don’t call American and Israel link as natural link because DAD always do favor to son
 
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Nanheyangrouchuan    RE:India vs Great Pakistan here comes the troll...   8/21/2006 10:55:49 PM
Musharaff dies, Pakistan disentegrates and India grabs Kashmir.
 
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eggfooyoung    RE:India vs Great Pakistan   8/21/2006 11:41:54 PM
india will never have to worry as long as pakistan has an ample population of madarsa educated dumba$$es like you.as i said earlier...in the next 10-15 yrs pakistan will become a part of greater india.
 
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Proud to be Indian       9/27/2006 4:19:55 PM
Mr.Moron,

That what i like to call you,Go read History before making such claims.

 
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Proud to be Indian    RE:India vs Great Pakistan   9/29/2006 12:15:21 AM
My comment is for the jack ass who wrote that stuff,U need to be educated  to know history all u learn is terrorism.
 
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sachahindustani       11/6/2006 5:03:23 AM
 
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sachahindustani       11/6/2006 5:09:01 AM
ok i understand u pakistanis r so desperate 2 prove ur point. but plz don't sulk. everyone knows how time and time again ur army was humilated by ours. so don't b jealous. and advice 4 all ur history teachers plz teach truth. I KNOW IT"S TOUGH 4 U PEOPLE. But admit it u had never and will never win a war against us.
 
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tigerscratch       11/12/2006 10:12:09 AM
And er..... you did conveniently forget about 1971 eh?
 
It took the Indians 14 days to completely decimate the Pakistanis and tear their nation into two.
 
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sachahindustani    kise alla kisam di gasti de bacche   11/12/2006 11:18:44 AM

 Teri maa nu tere bapu da pasand ni hai . yaa kise hor ton chudh di hai. U think u can take KASHMIR from us. assi CHOUHAN haa teri maa ,teri bhaen te,tere ghar wich koi hor janani hai taa bacha k rakhi kyo ki teri maa di kacchi wich macchi,kandeyan wali.    Eh na sochi     TREa MSG    "KOI MURDAN PADH REHA HAI , TERI MAA DA KHASAM CHOUHAN PADH REHA HAI"    TU KASHMIR DI GAL KARDA HAI ,BHAEN DE TAAKE  TU SADA FATEYA KACCHA NI LAE SAKDA.  TERI BHAEN NU CHODE JITTA TRUCK WALA, SADA SARWAN ,SADA BENNY( MY PET), TE SADA GIANI. IK HOR GAL DASSA TERI BHAEN DI KACCHI CH MACCHI .  J IK HI  BAAP DI AULAD  HAI( OH SORRY . . . . . . . . . . TU TAA PANCHAYAT DI GALTI HAI)          "GET UR FACTS RIGHT "
 AURTAN TE BACCHE NU MAAR K SHER BANDE HO. SADE TAA BACCHE V TUHADI MAA DE LUN DE DEAN GE J SAHMNE AAO TAA.                PATA LAGGA HAI K PAKISTANAN AN BADE SWAD NAAL  DEANDIAN HAN.      TERI BHAENAN KIVE DEANDIYA HAAN????????????????
                                     TU TAA LITTI HOVEGI.               "BHARAT MATA KI JAI"   
                    J SARHAD TE AA K SIRF PUNJABI V AA K MOOT DEAN TAA PAKISTAN CH HARH AA JAVE, TERI BHAEN RURH JAAVE, TAINU MISSILAN NAAL NI . . . . . .  . .GIANMI DE PADDAN NAAL MARNA HAI.                  BHAEN CHOD DALLE DE BACCHE TERI DE WARH J LUN RABB KARKR GASTI DE BACCHE.                             JITTE NU AIDS HAI                                                         
                      "SUNNY  BAITHA PAED PE APNA LUN LATKAYE,"
                      " TERI MAA TE BHAEN NU JINNA CHAHIDA HAI KAAT KAAT LR JAYE "
     TERI BHAEN NU CHODAN LAGE BAWA, TE NANGI  KAR K MUKAR JAAYE                 
                              MUSHARRAF DI MAA DE LUN TE BHAEN DE V.                  N ONE MORE THING                                 TERI BHAEN DI KACCHI CH MACCHI.
 
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Red Shirt    And still Pakistan defeated them in 1948, 1965 and Kargil war.   11/27/2006 11:12:43 AM

Why did you miss 1971.

Pakistan was non existant before 1947. They will again be non existant after 2020, if the Citizen of Pakistan did not get awaken now.

You force your leaders not to support Terrorists. You defeat all those who try to Islamise your country. The Human mind finds it fullest development only when it is set free as in a democracy. You think of your children now. If  you go on to support terrorism, go on to strengthen fundaentalism, what will be the fate of your children and grand children. Would they ever go to Schools & colleges. Would they ever travel beyond your country. With that kind of  fate, what they are going to teach to their future generations.

Now the whole world looks at every Paistani as an Islamic fundamentalist, every muslim as a terrorist. Can any muslim from Pak travel to Europe or US as free as ever before.

Till now Pakistan supported Terrorism, established madarasssas& training camps, produced inslamic fundamentalists, only to spread hatread, encourage voilence, cause instability in the peaceful societies of the neighbouring countries. Now it is for Pakistan to face the same from across the border, from other side.

Till date neither Pak Govt could gain any thing nor its people were flourished by supporting terrorism. The Poverty still exists.

Till date Pakistan had been working as a copycat of India. When ever India fired a missile, Immediate answer comes from Pakistan with another one. When India tested Neuclear weapons, immediately Pak followed. The Pak limited its copying onl in missiles. Why not it did copy India in Democracy, In Development, In Space, in equality to all the religions. Why not any single  citizen of  Pak could ever question their Govt on all these.

All Pakistanis, you know now that India is Second largest Muslim country in the world. Every Indian muslim is given a fair chance to grow, to flourish in a free world, to seek his profession of his choice. Even great Muslim  personalities were offered  the greatest honour of being the First Citizen of India. The famous personality Mr. A.P.J.Abdul Kalam was elected unanimously as the President of India. He was never seen as a Muslim. The whole country felt like honoured by electing him as its beloved President.

Now India is rum most efficiently by a Neuclear Scientist like Mr APJ, by an Economist like Man, by a Finance graduate like Chidambaram  and you know by people like even Mr Lalu Prasad Yadav. Can you dare to tell that Pak is also run by such people.

Even Now, It is not too late for the great Citizen of Pakistan to Decide, whether you want Your own country to exist,  flourish with Richness, grow with love & affection,  develop  in  Free Mind, blossom into a buatiful flower  with  knowledge &  Wisdom  OR simply vanish from world map, as a visitor for a brief period.

India benefits with a strong, stable & Single Pakistan as a good neighbour with friendly relations, in business  & people to people relations, thus making it possible to grow together by sharing available resources mutualy . India even benefits if the Pakistan gets dis-integrated into pieces, it can have a piece of  land along the SEA to have a direct link with the Oil bank. Either way, it is beneficial to India.

NOW it is upto YOU, the ALL PAKISTANIS, to THINK OVER ,  DECIDE. & ACT.
 
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Bharatveer    Pakistan lost big time   12/16/2006 3:03:17 AM
India definitely won the Kargil War and crushed the terrorist Islamofascist savage-state of Pakistan.

Proof from Pakistani sources:

The war devastated Pakistan's economy:

http://bcsia.ksg.harvard.edu/publication.cfm?program=STPP&ctype=article&item_id=438" rel="nofollow">http://bcsia.ksg.harvard.edu/publication.cfm?program=STPP&ctype=article&item_id=438 http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/13/reacts/print.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/13/reacts/print.html The morale and credibility of Pakistan Army was gone. http://bcsia.ksg.harvard.edu/publication.cfm?ctype=article&item_id=39" rel="nofollow">http://bcsia.ksg.harvard.edu/publication.cfm?ctype=article&item_id=39 Riots ensued in Pakistan over their defeat http://www.warbirds.in/downloads/HeraldKargil.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.warbirds.in/downloads/HeraldKargil.pdf In fact Musharraf had advised against Kargil: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_2-7-2003_pg7_19" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_2-7-2003_pg7_19 Knowing full well that they'd be defeated.

 Benazir Bhutto called Kargil Pakistan' biggest blunder. See: http://www.ipcs.org/PakMedia05-UAug04.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ipcs.org/PakMedia05-UAug04.pdf

Pakistani media lambasted the defeat of their own military

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/990709.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/990709.htm

In contrast, India's stock market rose after the war,  the BJP got massive popularity, Indian media covered the war beautifully, and global support for India rose. America, Israel and India are strong allies now, and everybody knows the truth about Pakistan, a state populated by backward and uncivilized rejects from India who are only interested in terrorism, murder, the propagation of hate through Deobandi Muslim madrassas and the promulgation of genocide and slaughter.

India's effective victory

http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2000/0410/india.kargil.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/381006.stm
http://www.rediff.com/news/2001/dec/12cag1.htm


India's military budget skyrocketed, and India wound up with one of the largest armies in the world. India definitely won the war in all aspects. India also won the 1971 war with Pakistan, with about 1 lakh surrenders from Pakistan army, and the other wars were a strategic victory for India (if not a tactical one).

India is superior to Pakistan in every aspect imaginable. Better economy, higher GDP, higher human development indexmore stable politics (Pakistan has massive insurgency in Balochistan (nearly 1/4th of Pakistan), insurgencies in India have been small scale and quickly crushed except Kashmir, a tiny corner of India). Pakistan is an islamofascist state and is currently ranked 9th by the US congress as a failed state (Sudan is first, India is 97th or something, lower ie better than Honduras or even Mexico), India is multicultural, Pakistan is islamofascist, Pakistan breeds the worlds most terrorists, every Muslim terrorist has received training in Pakistan at some time or another. Pakistan is populated by racists. Punjab is dominated by Punjabi ethnocentrists, Sind by Sindhi ethnocentrists. Pakistan is violent.Pakistanis have lower average IQ's than Indians do. Pakistanis have more backward people per total population than India does (NWFP Pukhtun etc.), Pakistan has more desperation than India does, Pakistan is an antisemitic country with Jew-bashing conspiracy theories sold in every street corner in Lahore (Protocols of Zion etc.), Pakistanis murder Christians, Hindus, Jews and Zoroastrians every day. Christians in Pakistan live in mortal fear all the time.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/rt_pakis.htm

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=7248
http://www.domini.org/openbook/pak20020925.htm
http://www.missio-aachen.de/menschen-kulturen/nachrichten/Sangla_Hill_attack_continues_to_draw_condemnation.asp
http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=4928
http://www.christianresponse.org/articles/291/cartoon-protestors-in-pakistan-targe
 
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