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Subject: Europe Has A Problem
SYSOP    3/27/2023 6:17:20 AM
 
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Fanatic       3/27/2023 8:04:48 PM
F-35B will help with this problem a bit, park em in driveways or farm sheds. Unfortunately the plane has less useful carrying capacity than f35A and C.
 
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Toryu88       3/28/2023 6:14:03 AM
The Japanese in WWII were estimating that up to 10 million of their own would die during the two amphibious landings. Gen. Marshal was prepared and indeed pushed for the use of the remaining six nuclear weapons to be used tactically on the buildup of Japanese forces on Kyushu that were to oppose the Olympic landings. Estimates of Allied casualties for the two operations were up to 500,000 KIA included in 1,000,000 million casualties total, not the 500,000 cited. In the 1990s the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum Enola Gay exhibit ignited a controversy that outraged WWII veterans. The revisionists historians cited the lower and incorrect estimates for casualties in support of the notion that the "nukes were not necessary" bullshit. Prior to the landings the US was redeploying the bulk of its European deployed divisions and what it more telling, is the Selective Service had ramped up its induction numbers to something like 70,000 to 80,000 new recruits a month. What is also telling is the number of evacuation hospitals that were planned for construction in the Phillipines and Okinawa and even Kyushu Japan to receive the influx of casualties. The projections for such a blood bath were based on a number of things. The Japanese planned to go all in on the suicide attacks and had husbanded thousands of airplanes including wooden trainers that were radar invisible, thousands of small suicide attack boats and one man submarines. The carnage the navy experienced off the coast of Okinawa would have been a cake walk since the suicide planes had to fly over 400 miles from air based in Kyushu and Taiwan to reach US ships. Off the mountainous coastlines of Japan, there would have been little or no warning of suicide air attacks on the target rich environment of the two proposed landing fleets, particularly the transports loaded with Soldiers and Marines. The Japanese estimated that they would be able to destroy the equivalent of five divisions of troops on the water during the landings. That would have been the equivalent of around 100,000 KIA during the initial stages before the ground combat really got started. The US planned to push north and capture the lower 120 miles of the southern Island and create a defensive line to keep the massive air field buildup beyond the reach of Japanese artillery. This would serve as the air umbrella and springboard for Operation Coronet the landing on the Kanto Plain around Tokyo, which was expected to be another very long, difficult and bloody fight. The US suffered 49,000 casualties including 12,500 KIA on Okinawa and another 20,000 psychiatric casualties. On the Island the US faced the equivalent of 4 and a half Japanese divisions and it took three months to defeat them. On Kyushu there were an estimated 30 Japanese divisions against a landing force of 13 US divisions. The terrain on Kyushu was every bit as tough defensive terrain as that on Okinawa. The Coronet operation had 28 allied divisions slated, against god knows how many Japanese divisions. The landings would have been across the marshy paddy fields surrounding Tokyo during the rainy season. Truly the lower number was bullshit and the US planned to reduce casualties any way they could up to and including poison gas. The Nukes were a blessing to both the Allied troops and the Japanese military and civilians.
 
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