Military History | How To Make War | Wars Around the World Rules of Use How to Behave on an Internet Forum
Air Defense Discussion Board
   Return to Topic Page
Subject: Does israel have the best Air Force?
Worf_Israel    8/17/2003 7:15:10 AM
By what im told it is said Israel has the best trained air force in the world (i find it to be very true). it has been proven that the Israeli air force has taken on incredible odds when it comes to air force battle for example: when Israel attack the Iraq's nuclear facility, Israel sent 5 F-15 fighters to destroy the nuclear lab facility - after the f-15 cross to Iraq's air space 25 MG-22/23 (cant remember the MG number) were sent to destroy the F-15. NOT ONLY did the israel complete their mission they destroyed all 25 enemy aircraft without losing one of their own. even today it is CLEAR FACT that most US Air Force Tactics are tactics that were shown by the Israel - even today Israel has joined training with the USA (they don't talk about it) and the Israel pilots teach American pilots.(note:if you didn't know Israel and the UK has more joined training with the USA then any other country)
 
Quote    Reply

Show Only Poster Name and Title     Newest to Oldest
Pages: PREV  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27   NEXT
FABIO    western supperiority?   2/13/2004 9:49:16 AM
DO NOT forget the russian Air Force and Chinese as well. I Agree about the IAF is the most trainned air force, but for me, the SUKHOIS and MIG 29 are better than any US or european fighter. The Sukhois have the most capability of bombing and SPAM and is a real multirole jet, the MIG29 is the best for dogfighting... The US have a lot of experience...
 
Quote    Reply

sentinel28a    RE:western supperiority?   2/13/2004 3:09:56 PM
No question that the Russians have very good fighters in the Su-27 series and the MiG-29. Teamed with good pilots and good missiles (and the R-60 and R-77 are pretty good), they would be hard to beat. Not impossible, but very very tough. The problem is, most people who use Russian equipment either have a thin edge of really good pilots and a vast majority of those who are lucky if they can get the gear up, or simply suck all around. Russia itself is a prime example of the former; Iraq is (or was) a prime example of the latter. If the Russian Air Force had the funding to expand its training, it would be equal to the US in every way, with the exception of stealth and power projection. India is the exception to both rules, as it has a mostly Russian-based air fleet and at least fairly well-trained pilots. So that's the problem. You can have the best, tweaked out Su-37 in the world, but if it's flown by a guy who's still trying to figure out how to run the radar, he's going to get waxed by the well-trained, war-experienced guy in the 20-year old F-15.
 
Quote    Reply

USA RULES    RE:Does israel have the best Air Force?   2/25/2004 8:56:12 PM
How can you can compare the IDF to the US Airforce. If it came down to a shooting match bewteen the US- Israel the IAF would not be able to fly...... It would be no contest. Yes the Israeli have a good tactical Airforce "donated" by the American tax payer with good israeli avionics paid for buy the American taxpaper. come on lets be realistic they spend what maybe 10 Billion at the most on defence and we spend lets says 400 billion plus. We would saturate the Israeli Airforce the same way we did the Iraqi Airforce and remember the Israeli Airforce is American made, that means made in the USA. parts parts parts. There is no Military in the world that can fight and win a war against the US Airforce.
 
Quote    Reply

ChdNorm    RE:IAF vs TAF   2/25/2004 10:08:00 PM
"IAF vs TAF 2/13/2004 12:38:31 AM Sounds like a good cpmparison would be the Texas Air Force vs the IAF. Lots of similiarities there.. Ego, size, etc. ;-) But I would give the edge to the TAF, they have B1's out of west Texas that the IAF don't. Plus the fact that Texas has its back to the sea, and all the other states surrounding it desire that Texas be pushed into the sea. *tongue firmly in cheek*" Dont forget the Confederate Air Force out in Midland. That means the Texas Air Force would even have a B-29 and a B-17 or two! Texas does share the same "backs to the sea" mentality. But I for one would take my honorable position on the south bank of the Red River and hold my position against the swarming mass of oncoming Okies ....... even if they are just coming over to buy more lotto tickets.
 
Quote    Reply

sooner    RE:Does israel have the best Air Force?   2/26/2004 6:53:32 AM
If you think Israel has superior air might to the United States, you're misinformed or a bit crazy. Don't forget what kind of people you're talking to here.
 
Quote    Reply

nextxx    RE:Does israel have the best Air Force?   2/26/2004 3:49:31 PM
He said best trained AF, not strongest. No one can beat the USAF when it comes to might. The question is do 5 jets from the US Air Foce could take down 5 jets from the Israeli Air Force so easily? I think this topic is about qulity of training not might. The USAF is the strongest AF in the world.
 
Quote    Reply

sentinel28a    RE:Does israel have the best Air Force?   2/26/2004 4:39:26 PM
I think it would depend on the indivdual pilot. The IDF does particpate in Red Flag now, so it would be interesting to know how they did.
 
Quote    Reply

navyflyboy    RE:Does israel have the best Air Force?   3/9/2004 2:36:33 AM
The question of who has a better Air Force is simple the US has the best Air Force in the world by far and when compare the Israeli Air Force to the US you must take the size of the Air Force into consideration, The Israeli Air Force is much smaller then the US and the accept fewer pilot then the US and they only take the best and the brightest because thats all the can afford. Now the US Air Force is much large and choses from a wide range of pilots. If you took 5 of the best Israeli pilots against 5 of the best US pilots it would be a pretty good dogfight but the US will win without a doubt. I believe the Israelis are good but as good as the US Air Force very unlikely.
 
Quote    Reply

dirtyd    does israel have the best air force?   3/12/2004 9:41:13 PM
Ok guys, I have been watching you all debate now for over six months. I am in the USAF now but I am not going to get into specifics. Look lets get one thing straight. Israel has an awesome air force for there size. The are regional air force with only 10,000 professionals. the rest are conscripts. We are over 320,000. The excerises you all talk about Israeli pilots dominate Red Flag or whatever. You guys need to understand something. The israeli train and focus on air to air tactics. This is there speciality. ours is more of a air to ground. Also they have a higher selection standard. To them a fighter pilot is a national hero just like a football player is too us. Anyway getting back to those excerises they are controlled enviorments. In military excercises they are used to teach you. oppsing forces know when and where u are attacking. By the way IAF is a small air force. U all need to grow up and stop being so ignorant trying to find anything or anybody who is better than us.
 
Quote    Reply

khan    RE:Does israel have the best Air Force?   3/14/2004 12:11:30 AM
They probably do, but its hard to say when you've got U.S. technology and the Arabs stuff from WWII
 
Quote    Reply
PREV  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27   NEXT



 Latest
 News
 
 Most
 Read
 
 Most
 Commented
 Hot
 Topics