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Subject: Chinese Try to Get Black Hawk Parts
Softwar    6/19/2008 11:25:57 AM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jun/19/inside-the-ring-94640713/?page=1 BLACK HAWK PARTS China's government recently asked the Bush administration to waive sanctions that bar the export of military spare parts for Beijing's U.S.-made Black Hawk helicopters, aircraft purchased during the 1980s and now being used by China's military for earthquake relief efforts in Sichuan province. A White House spokesman, however, said he is unaware that the president is considering a waiver on the restrictions imposed on the helicopter parts transfers after the 1989 military crackdown in Beijing's Tiananmen Square. China's government made the request for the helicopter parts after the Bush administration offered assistance to China in the aftermath of last month's deadly earthquake. The helicopter parts waiver was last raised publicly in 1996, when the Clinton administration considered but then rejected transferring the Sikorsky-made helicopter through a presidential waiver. China purchased 24 Black Hawks in the mid-1980s when ties between the two governments were warmer, but has had trouble keeping the aircraft flying because of the embargo. All military sales were cut off by Congress after China's use of military troops against unarmed protesters in Beijing's Tiananmen Square. In an apparent effort to bolster the Chinese diplomatic request, recent state-run news video and photographs from China showed several of the Chinese Black Hawks airlifting people and supplies from the Sichuan quake zone, even though most of China's military helicopters are Russian-made M-17s. U.S. officials declined to provide details on the Chinese waiver request because of concerns about discussing diplomatic exchanges but confirmed that the request was made. One reason many administration national-security officials oppose a waiver is it would undermine U.S. law-enforcement efforts. In recent years, Chinese agents made several attempts to illegally acquire Black Hawk parts in the United States. China has asked the Bush administration to waive export restrictions on the transfer of military spare parts for China's U.S.-made Black Hawk helicopters, like this one used in earthquake relief efforts in Sichuan province. A former military intelligence official said the Chinese in the past have used retired U.S. generals to lobby for lifting the restrictions on Black Hawk spare parts. Specifically, a 1996 lobbying effort was blocked after military intelligence obtained a photograph of a Chinese Black Hawk that had been sold on the condition that it not be used for combat, outfitted with a 133-millimeter canon used during a military exercise simulating an invasion of Taiwan. The photo "stopped the U.S. generals and the embassy short" in the effort to waive parts export restrictions, the former official said. A Chinese Embassy spokesman could not be reached for comment.
 
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Softwar    Rand Report Documents   6/19/2008 11:29:29 AM

Obatined from the Clinton Administration by FOIA
page 294 details the illegal exports of Black Hawk parts to the PLA

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Zhang Fei       6/19/2008 5:25:15 PM
I wonder if the Chinese might have put in a custom order with the Pakistani Taliban:

FOUR US helicopter engines worth more than $US13 million ($13.79 million) have gone missing while being transported by a Pakistani truck company, the US-led coalition in Afghanistan says.
The engines went missing before the 101st Airborne took command of the coalition in Afghanistan on April 11, coalition spokesman Christian Patterson said.

"They were being sent from Bagram to Fort Bragg, USA. The collective value of the engines is worth $US13.2 million," he said.

 
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Herald12345    They've had Blackhawks for twenty years    6/19/2008 6:31:30 PM
and have been unable to duplicate them?

That speaks volumes about their CRAP technology, doesn't it, when they can't replicate our CRAP technology?

Curious.

Herald

 
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Zhang Fei       6/19/2008 9:50:28 PM
My feeling is that they can make something that looks like a Blackhawk. Making something that runs like a Blackhawk would require knowledge about mil spec materials technology, embedded software and so on and so forth.
 
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