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Subject: why can't we spend money on people who really need them?
chinese boy    7/10/2004 12:43:10 PM
billions of dollars are spend on military each year, thousands of people die because of the billions of dollars that was spent. why can't we spend those money on construction of this world instead of the destruction of this world? why?
 
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FJV    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 3:19:32 PM
The money is not the main obstacle. At the moment you'll just be throwing money at self defeating behaviour. You could honestly look at Mugabe to see what is the main problem. Aids could serve as an example. African states have cheap aids medicines now, but lack the infrastructure to correctly administer these drugs. In this ejnvironment versions of AIDS will develope that are resistant to the current treatments. PS If you'ls really care about Africa then malaria and the ban on DDT is the thing to be pissed off about. (just take a look at the numbers) http://www.globalhealth.org/news/article/1989 http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.htm
 
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chinese boy    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 3:42:59 PM
aids is an problem, but i think hunger is a bigger problem, people die every day because of hunger, and i believe we human being have the capability of producing enough food for everyone on this planet. peace begin when the hungerys are fed.
 
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FJV    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 4:17:49 PM
Calorie intake has increased from 1975 to 1995 http://www.povertymap.net/mapsgraphics/index.cfm?data_id=23354&theme= http://www.povertymap.net/mapsgraphics/index.cfm?data_id=23353&theme= This one shows that global food production grows faster than human population. http://www.povertymap.net/mapsgraphics/index.cfm?data_id=23357&theme= Things may not be okay, but this data suggests that the situation have been (are?) improving.
 
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displacedjim    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 4:20:24 PM
Well, if hunger is the problem, then production (grow/buy from growers), distribution (bring to market to sell to consumers), and acquisition/consumption (buy from distributors/take home, cook, and eat the food by consumers) is the method to overcome that problem. So who's hungry, and which parts of that chain of events aren't being satisfied in their lives? Pin-point those areas and you can begin to solve the hunger problem. I'm sure it's obvious I do not consider the solution to be having governments stop spending on militaries, and instead give away that money to other governments. Only a communist would think that was an acceptable course of action. Displacedjim
 
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FJV    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 4:41:41 PM
Poverty is propably caused by a number of different factors interconnected to each other. A lot of small causes that end up having a large effect together. I would using system analisys methods to map out the functions "causes and effects" and the way these functions are connected "the structure of causes and effects that are connected". After this I'ld simultaneously use several different methods to take down the structure of causes and effects of poverty. This would mean that for solution of some parts of the problem foreign aid is needed, while for other parts foreign aid would actually worsen the situation. Not as glamorous as solving poverty in a single sweep, wouldn't prove the left or the right as being "right", no political gain. Just boring analisys and hard work. And looking at boring statistics. That would be the way I'ld try it.
 
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chinese boy    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 5:08:59 PM
what i mean is if we can cut the military spending and put it on food distribtution in africa, asia, south america, middle east, the world would be a much better place. usa is planning to arm the moon soon, is that really necessary right now? china is planning to build aircraft carrier, it that necessary now? people spend way too much money on military than helping the ones who really needs them.
 
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wagner95696    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 8:32:51 PM
Africans have the capability to feed everyone in Africa. The fact that they don't says as much about their values as about ours. To move forward one must cut some of the old strings. There must be changes in personal and cultural values. Unfortunately many people want all the goodies that the modern world brings but they refuse to abandon the old cultural values that promote violence, tribalism, superstition, ignorance, etc. They can not have both and until THEY decide to change throwing money at the problem would only be like feeding a canmcer causing it to become bigger than it ws in the first place.
 
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Roman    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   7/10/2004 8:51:19 PM
Well, chinese boy, everyone who believes that more money must be spent on fighting poverty on Africa needs to begin at home. Europe is already spending $35 billion each year on official development aid (this figure does not include food and other emergency aid and it does not include the money that private groups such as companies and individual people give to charities that then goes to the developing world) and this amount is increasing every year. It is now time, chinese boy, that you petition your own government to also cut the $70 billion or so in military spending, just as Europe has been doing for the past 15 years, and to spend the money that Chinese government saves on helping the starving and the sick in Africa.
 
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jastayme3    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   1/24/2006 7:18:32 PM
peace begin when the hungerys are fed. Previous Comment -------------------------------------- Well yes-but as the various "soldiers" as they call themselves, live by robbing the the peasants the hungary won't be fed until peace begins. So there you are.
 
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jastayme3    RE:why can't we spend money on people who really need them?   1/24/2006 7:24:06 PM
There is enough to feed everybody reasonably well and still keep the military as it is-and even let some people live in useless decadance. The actual supply isn't the problem. Getting it there is.
 
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