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Subject: One more question:
45-Shooter    5/13/2013 8:58:31 PM
Does anyone here know why smaller recip engines make more power per cubic inch displacement than larger recip engines? Or why larger engines get better fuel economy than smaller engines of the same power?
 
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oldbutnotwise       6/30/2013 2:19:31 PM
"welcome to my world"
 
please let us know when you return to this world as the planet you live on is getting tiresum
 
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45-Shooter       6/30/2013 2:22:15 PM





ICE motors is an Oxi-moron. ICE relates to "Engines" which are a different class of device than "Motors". But that has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand.
The question is why do small engines make more power per unit of displacement than larger motors? See prior post to find the simple answer.
 

The technical difference in definition, at least in the states, is that "Motors" take energy supplied by some other source and convert it into movement, while "Engines" convert the energy from one form into another internally and produce motion as the out put. Such as "Steam" engines, which are technically motors take steam from a boiler or other source and convert the energy it contains into work. It can not make the steam internally. An engine on the other hand falls into two classes, one which like a clockwork converts energy from one form into another, or as an ICE which converts fuel and air internally into work.
It is a subtle difference, but a difference all the same.

 
 
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45-Shooter       6/30/2013 3:04:10 PM

   
Secondly, I am now a Camaro guy. It is and has since 1982 been know as one of the best handling American or even world wide cars on the road.
joke, Camaro a good handling car? you need to try more cars if you think a Camaro handles
Read Road and Track, Car and Driver.
 
While it has a live solid rear axel, the now universal use of extremely wide and sticky tires since the mid sixties have done much to mitigate that disadvantage.

solid rear axles are a joke, no serious sports car has had one of those for 40 years and wide and sticky tyres does not make uo for bad design
Well, yes, to a great extent, they do make up for a modern iteration of an old design.
 
OH!, you mean the old original Mini-Coopers! I raced against several of them in the early '70s when I had a '69 Fiat 124 Sport Coupe'! I left them ALL in the dust at half a dozen Battlefield Region Sports Car Club Auto-cross events, even though they were a class up from me! Several times each! Do you think those old Minis could hold a candle to my much newer Camaro? Right! 
 
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oldbutnotwise       6/30/2013 3:19:51 PM
the first test I found states that its handling is not up to a Porsche - the problem is that that the Porsche they are referring to Porsche Cayenne
 
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marat,jean       7/1/2013 10:48:20 AM
You try to teach me SCIENCE? And even then you get it wrong. A steam engine only becomes a locomotive when it turns wheels. A trebuchet is a gravity ENGINE. You do not know the difference? When you try to complicate and obscure what  I told you already and PARROT it back to me and somehow still mangle it to reveal your ignorance? I laugh at you.     












ICE motors is an Oxi-moron. ICE relates to "Engines" which are a different class of device than "Motors". But that has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand.
The question is why do small engines make more power per unit of displacement than larger motors? See prior post to find the simple answer.
 



The technical difference in definition, at least in the states, is that "Motors" take energy supplied by some other source and convert it into movement, while "Engines" convert the energy from one form into another internally and produce motion as the out put. Such as "Steam" engines, which are technically motors take steam from a boiler or other source and convert the energy it contains into work. It can not make the steam internally. An engine on the other hand falls into two classes, one which like a clockwork converts energy from one form into another, or as an ICE which converts fuel and air internally into work.
It is a subtle difference, but a difference all the same.

 

 
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45-Shooter       7/4/2013 2:25:48 AM

What do you think, could a Cayman keep up for $75K?

 
 
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45-Shooter       7/4/2013 2:32:07 AM

You try to teach me SCIENCE? And even then you get it wrong. A steam engine only becomes a locomotive when it turns wheels. A trebuchet is a gravity ENGINE. You do not know the difference? When you try to complicate and obscure what  I told you already and PARROT it back to me and somehow still mangle it to reveal your ignorance? I laugh at you.   A steam motor with out a boiler to make steam is a lump. But when combined with a boiler, it becomes an engine! I never mentioned locomotion, just converting steam pressure into motion, either linear or rotary, but in any case it is still a motor until someone attaches a boiler to it to make it an engine.

ICE motors is an Oxi-moron. ICE relates to "Engines" which are a different class of device than "Motors". But that has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand.
The question is why do small engines make more power per unit of displacement than larger motors? See prior post to find the simple answer.

The technical difference in definition, at least in the states, is that "Motors" take energy supplied by some other source and convert it into movement, while "Engines" convert the energy from one form into another internally and produce motion as the out put. Such as "Steam" engines, which are technically motors take steam from a boiler or other source and convert the energy it contains into work. It can not make the steam internally. An engine on the other hand falls into two classes, one which like a clockwork converts energy from one form into another, or as an ICE which converts fuel and air internally into work.
It is a subtle difference, but a difference all the same.

 


 
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marat,jean       7/4/2013 6:42:44 AM
You still have it wrong after three tries.
 
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45-Shooter    RIGHT!!!?   7/8/2013 3:45:11 PM
Both Internal Combustion Engines and Trebuchets are "Engines"! But "External Combustion Steam Machines" are Motors unless the boiler is integrated into the ECSM making it an "Engine" like a steam locomotive. Does that simplify it enough for your mind? If you still do not get it, I'll try harder and simplify it farther until you can get it!
You still have it wrong after three tries.


 
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oldbutnotwise       7/8/2013 4:09:45 PM
Sorry Shooter but that's a Cayenne not a Cayman
 
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