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Subject: Duel: Messerschmitt Me 262 vs. Gloster Meteor
45-Shooter    4/9/2013 4:42:18 PM
Which do you think would win and why. Secondly, what would you do, or have to do to reverse the outcome above? As in modifications to the plane.
 
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Maratabc       4/16/2013 10:25:37 PM
Foolish one 70% of fighter kills are ambush kills. Your numbers are WRONG. When the attacker misses, then you want to be able to angle fight. When in the meeting engagement where radars see and not the eyes, angle fighting becomes even more important.

And I am convinced that your made up figures are pure lies. Show me your source, for you have lied so much that your word is worthless.     
 
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45-Shooter       4/17/2013 5:54:03 PM

Foolish one 70% of fighter kills are ambush kills. Where did you get this number? Your numbers are WRONG. Are they? Prove it! When the attacker misses, then you want to be able to angle fight. Wrong again! I want to escape his wing man to live to fight another day! When in the meeting engagement where radars see and not the eyes, angle fighting becomes even more important. No, it becomes much less important as it is exactly that scenario where "Switchology" takes over as the premier skill, well above ALL of the others!

And I am convinced that your made up figures are pure lies. Show me your source, for you have lied so much that your word is worthless.    I took those numbers from others here on this board! You see, I have so much trouble with guys like you, I started using your figures some time ago! So since you are the very first to post this figure, specifically one so low, (14.3% lower than the next lowest figure ever posted!) it is on you to back it up, or use the 80% figure from others here, or the 90% figure from others here, or the 93% figure I got from personal research. But take your pick and state your choice in writing so we can all know which side of the argument you are on!
 
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Maratabc       4/17/2013 7:00:21 PM
From the United States Air Force.
 
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45-Shooter    Talk about a BS slinger....   4/18/2013 1:38:04 PM
Quoted from prior post that stated 70% of all Victories were from "Ambush"! Where did you get this number?
 
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Maratabc       4/18/2013 1:57:15 PM
From the United States Air Force.
 
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45-Shooter       4/22/2013 11:30:30 PM
Where did you get that 70% die from ambush figure?
From the United States Air Force.
They, The USAAF/USAF are the ones who stated 93% of all WW-II kills were Vs targets flying level with less than 30 degrees of bank on their wings! A rather specific and exact definition implicating that the targets were not trying very hard, if at all to evade! IE, were shot down from ambush as bushwhackers say! So that brings us back to the original question, Where did you get that 70% number?
Secondly, even IF it is 70% die WO taking evasive action, which side of that coin would you rather be on, the 70% side or the 30% side?
 
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Maratabc       4/23/2013 12:50:52 AM
Liar.
 
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Maratabc       4/23/2013 1:17:32 AM

Liar.
 
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45-Shooter    So you site a RAND studdy of the F-15 as your source?   4/25/2013 12:10:25 AM

Liar.
Quote "RAND has applied the NCO CF to the air-to-air combat mission. We used the framework to examine the results of the Joint Tactical Information Distribution System (JTIDS) Operational Special
Project. This project examined the performance of tactical fighter air-craft (F-15s) equipped with Link 16 data communications terminals
and found that F-15s equipped with Link 16 were significantly more
effective in air combat than F-15s equipped with only voice communications."

So you think a study of radar equipped F-15s with and with out the Data link applies to WW-II? Right! Talk about cheesy!
 
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Maratabc       4/25/2013 10:46:20 AM
It gives history of radio communication among fighter pilots of WW II as an example of data sharing, fool.The data is in there.
 
 
 
 
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