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Subject: F-22 Rival Revised
SYSOP    10/23/2012 5:04:25 AM
 
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45-Shooter       1/4/2013 7:50:20 PM


OK up to this point:
The short end of the argument goes like this;

7. THE GOOD NEWS! This is still higher than the typical gasoline fueled car at ~30% efficiency.But wait! The car has a catalitic converter on it that is the size of a stack of six do-nuts that removes most of the ploution from the exhaust! Passing "The Smog Test" requires that there be no more than 2.6 Parts Per Million polution, or the car fails in 49 of the 50 States.

The pollution being removed is CO, unburned hydrocarbons, NOx only. You have to be an enviromental wacco to believe CO is a polution! We exhale tones of the stuff every day. Plants can not live WO it!
The short end of the argument goes like this;

8. Now the BAD Part. 97% polution free means that the 3% polution, measured in PPM is 30,000 PPM! So under thye best possible case, the typical electric car causes more than 10,000 times more polution than the typical gasoline powered car! You can work out the worst case scenario for you own home and conditions, since less than 1% of all Americans live with in those numbers above!
The pollution from a coal plant consist of SO2 and NOx, fly ash The 97/3% I was reffering to is ALL fly ash! (small particles of glass like material wafted on the riser air), and low boiling point materials (mostly mercury). Because combustion takes place with a large excess of air the quantity of unburned hydrocarbons and CO is far lower than for an IC engine, and mostly attached to the flyash. The 97% figure is for the SO2 and NOx. Flyash is almost completely removed. Removal for the mercury is, or soon will be, much higher.
 
SO2 and NOx, do not constitute the entire exhaust stream, which is mainly nitrogen and carbon dioxide. On a % weight basis you are talking less than 0.1%, so divide your number by 1000. Why? N2 and CO2 are not polutants! N2 is about, IIRC, 70 of all air and CO2 is what plants breath and they would die WO it!
 
Still plenty high (10x) ! But the advocates assume that all the coal will be quickly phased out and be replaced with ‘pollution free’ wind and solar, which is totally unrealistic. (And pollution free is physically impossible as well.)
Three parts to the AGW argument that are out and out lies!
1. AGW is happening and it is bad! This is an out and out lie! More on this later if you like.
2. CO and CO2 are bad for the environment. Ditto!
3. Electric cars do not cause polution! See above!

 
 
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