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Subject: Turkey conducted (secret) war games with China - what if the Turks let the Chinese inspect the F-35?
Zhang Fei    10/1/2010 2:39:18 PM
Turkey conducted war games with China, news report says. Unbelievable:
The Turkish and Chinese air forces secretly participated in a military drill in Konya as part of the “Anatolian Eagle” war games, prompting a reaction from Washington, daily Taraf reported Thursday. Taraf based its report on Turkish and Western military sources, who confirmed that the military drills took place but did not state the exact dates of the games or what kind of aircraft were involved. Washington has requested information on the matter from Turkey, the report added. Last year, Ankara excluded Israel from the war games, reportedly because of political tension that arose with Tel Aviv after the Israeli-led war in Gaza in January 2009. The Turkish government decided to freeze all military exercises with Israel in response to the killing by Israeli commandos of nine people on a Gaza-bound aid flotilla in May. Last year, Ankara excluded Tel Aviv from the same exercise, which prompted fellow NATO members the United States and Italy to withdraw from the drills. Turkey had to conduct the exercise on a national instead of an international level. Since the early 2000s, Turkey, a NATO member, has conducted war games in the central Anatolian province of Konya with other members of the alliance or non-member friendly nations. But this year was the first time a military drill was conducted with China. The U.S. administration reportedly contacted the Turkish foreign and defense ministries and asked why the drill was conducted and what kind of maneuvers were practiced. Joint missile production Turkey and China took their first step in military cooperation in the late 1990s with joint missile production, manufacturing weapons with a 150-kilometer range. The multinational NATO “Anatolian Eagle” exercise is hosted by the Turkish Air Forces and is aimed at boosting aerial cooperation and training air forces of other participatory countries. The exercises have been performed since the first Anatolian Eagle, or AE-01, in June 2001.
 
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Reactive       10/1/2010 7:46:35 PM
I think it's a case of powerbroking again - Turkey as a secular (until recently at least) and relatively modern middle-eastern state has played somewhat of a double game - it is indeed a worrying situation as far as technology transfer is concerned, I hope that the powers that be are keeping an eye on developments with Erdogan's govt - it's very obviously a dubious (in my view) ally, one that has always sided with whichever power was most convenient at the time - my view is that the F-35 sale to Turkey shouldn't be allowed to happen - The US has asserted a fair amount of diplomatic pressure in order to get Turkey EU membership (commonly opposed in the EU), what it has failed to see (in my view) is what is happening politically in that nation, once the doors of secularism are kicked in there's absolutely no telling what will happen next - to give Erdogan's govt access to the F-35 technology is a major risk - software kill mechanisms aside, I think the technology would inevitably find its way to a whole host of nations that we do not regard as allies.
 
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Aussiegunneragain       10/1/2010 8:15:45 PM
Whether or not it goes to Turkey the F-35 is being so widely distributed that I reckon it is a pretty sure bet that potential enemies will have access to information about it sooner or later. However, it would also undoubtedly take the likes of China years or even decades to replicate and apply that technology and the US will be on to the next technological leap. Anyay, suppliers like Russia and France are likely to have developed their own equivalent technology to the F-35 in the time that it would take to covertly disseminate anyway. 
I personally think that ensuring that US allies are properly equipped is might outweigh technology transfer considerations in this instance. Turkey is a major ally in the Middle-East/Central Asia and by equipping them it increases the odds of keeping them in the US camp, gives the US the ability to withhold support for their technology if they behave badly (like the US did with Iran, Pakistan and Indonesia at various time) and provides Turkey with the means to fight its own battles, rather than having to deploy US troops every time the Turks get into a tiff.
 
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