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Subject: Antonov wants into the US tanker business...
doggtag    7/7/2010 11:39:26 AM
OK, so after I had a good laugh at it, here's the story: (courtesy Defense-Aerospace.Com, 07July2010 press releases) U.S. Aerospace, Inc. and Antonov to Bid on U.S. Air Force Tanker Program (Source: U.S. Aerospace, Inc.; issued July 6, 2010) ( ) LOS ANGELES --- U.S. Aerospace, Inc., an aerospace and defense contractor, today announced that it has entered into a Strategic cooperation agreement with Antonov to bid on the request for proposal to supply 179 aerial refueling tankers to the U.S. Air Force. The airframes will be built in Ukraine by Antonov, with final assembly at a new U.S. Aerospace, Inc. facility in the United States. The KC-X Tanker Modernization Program, expected to be the largest contract in Pentagon history, represents the first step of the strategic cooperation between Antonov and U.S. Aerospace, Inc. to supply and service aircraft to the U.S. military and commercial aircraft markets. Antonov designed, built and operates the world's largest aircraft, the AN-225, which provides strategic airlift capabilities for the U.S. Department of Defense and others. Antonov and U.S. Aerospace, Inc. will bid three models for the KC-X program, the AN-124-KC, AN-122-KC, a twin-engine variant of the AN-124-100 with advanced engines, electronics and avionics, and AN-112-KC, an updated airframe designed specifically to meet the tanker program requirements. "Antonov's participation in the U.S. Air Force tanker bid with U.S. Aerospace, Inc. is an historic opportunity for Antonov to showcase its premier design, engineering and manufacturing capabilities to the world," said Dmytro S. Kiva, President and General Designer of Antonov. "We are extremely pleased to have entered into this agreement with U.S. Aerospace, Inc., and are looking forward to the long-term mutual benefits of our partnership." "We are honored to be partnering with the world's premier designer and manufacturer of large transport aircraft," said Jerrold S. Pressman, Chairman of U.S. Aerospace, Inc. "We are particularly impressed by Mr. Kiva's strong leadership and vision for the future. Together we can deliver the U.S. Air Force a superior tanker at the most competitive price." Since 1946, Antonov Aeronautical Scientific/Technical Complex has designed and manufactured dozens of different types of aircraft, including the world's first and second largest aircraft, the AN-225 Mriya and AN-124 Condor strategic airlifters, and the AN-148 and AN-158 commercial airliners. The legendary Antonov Design Bureau is renowned for its expertise in the design and construction of large military transport aircraft. Antonov is a state-owned commercial company, with design, engineering, construction, manufacturing, maintenance, hangar and servicing facilities in Kiev, Ukraine, where it also operates Antonov Airlines and Antonov Airport. U.S. Aerospace, Inc. is a publicly traded aerospace and defense contractor based in Southern California. U.S. Aerospace is an emerging world-class supplier to the U.S. Department of Defense, U.S. Air Force, Lockheed Martin Corporation, L-3 Communications Holdings, Inc., the Middle River Aircraft Systems subsidiary of General Electric Company, and other aerospace companies, commercial aircraft manufacturers and prime defense contractors. The Company supplies aircraft assemblies, structural components and highly-engineered, precision-machined details for commercial and military aircraft. It is also a leading manufacturer and remanufacturer of specialized aircraft machining tools, including vertical boring mills and large Vertical Turning Centers used to manufacture the largest jet engines, airplane landing gear, and other precision components. U.S. Aerospace has offices and production facilities in Santa Fe Springs and Rancho Cucamonga, California. (EDITOR'S NOTE: This press release is reproduced because US Aerospace's surprise announcement that it would bid for the KC-X competition has been widely publicized. However, previous announcements about the participation of Russian aircraft in the tanker competition have been subsequently denied or discredited.) -ends- ------ Gee. "....will bid three models for the KC-X program, the AN-124-KC, AN-122-KC, a twin-engine variant of the AN-124-100 with advanced engines, electronics and avionics, and AN-112-KC, an updated airframe designed specifically to meet the tanker program requirements...." So in other words, their offerings are vaporware (only on paper) just like Boeing's proposal, also? I can only wait to see the Boeing Smear Tactics Machine get rolling against the various companies in this group.... (and without causing a major political/international uproar by decrying some subsidizing that state-owned Antonov has received from the Russian government, no less.....) Hey man, haven't you h
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doggtag    and more from a few days earlier...   7/7/2010 11:50:25 AM
...this time, courtesy of AirForce Times (credibility of these *Military-Branch-Of-Choice* Times has left much to be desired, so take with a grain of salt....)
"Dumb beyond belief, for more reasons than I can count."
Heh heh.
If anything, it'll just draaaag this competition out even longer.
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WarNerd       7/8/2010 4:41:15 AM
Think about.
What happens if the Boeing and Airbus bids get locked up in the courts like last time?  Is there a chance the Pentagon would have to go with a 3rd party just so they could have some tankers while waiting for the courts to pick the big winner?  And if the 'temporary tankers' proved good enough, then they might even be able to say 'a pox on both your houses', and tell the 3rd party to expand production. 
The Pentagon's constantly changing requirements are a headache, but the legal shenanigans from contested bids are getting to be even worse.
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clouds    AN-112-KC is next generation of An-70   7/15/2010 7:29:12 PM" width="554" height="411" alt="" />

Antonov An-112KC will be developed on much more modern technology than even An-70 which still the world's best MTA. An-112KC is F-22 of MTA. 

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clouds    AN-112-KC is next generation of An-70   7/15/2010 8:15:29 PM" alt="" />" alt="" />" alt="" />" alt="" />" alt="" />" alt="" />" alt="" />

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clouds    An-112 KC Brochure   7/16/2010 5:17:14 PM
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HeavyD       7/20/2010 4:13:10 PM
Woo Hoo!  A tanker based on the An225!  With a 275 ton capacity, we'd only need a couple of these babies to refuel an entire air wing.
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doggtag    ya just can't help but laugh at it all....   8/5/2010 9:19:06 AM
...if at first you don't succeed, pull a "Boeing" and cry, cry again....
from Defense-Aerospace.Com,
(Source: Securities Exchange Commission; accessed Aug. 4, 2010)
"On August 2, 2010, we submitted a bid protest to the General Accounting Office with regard to the bid we submitted in response to the request for proposal (RFP) for the KC-X Tanker Modernization Program.

This protest is made on the grounds that the conduct of the Department of the Air Force was unreasonable, that statutory requirements for full and open competition have not been met, and that the actions taken by the agency were contrary to law and regulation.

This protest is also based upon apparent misconduct by certain members of The Aeronautical Systems Center's KC-X Program Office, which was unlawful and apparently done with the intent and effect of improperly discriminating against one potential bidder in favor of another.

Our proposal was hand delivered on July 9, 2010. The messenger arrived at the government installation, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, well before 1:30 pm, more than half an hour before the 2:00 pm deadline.

Air Force personnel initially denied the messenger entry to the base, then gave incorrect directions to 1755 Eleventh Street Building 570, and finally instructed the messenger to wait where he was for Air Force personnel to come and get him. He at all times complied with the instructions of Air Force personnel, from the time he arrived at the installation until the proposal was taken by Air Force personnel at the program building.

Although the proposal was arbitrarily marked received at 2:05 pm, it was under Air Force control before the bid deadline.

Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) 52.215-1(c)(3)(ii)(A) states that a proposal received after the time specified for receipt of offers will be considered if certain conditions are met and "it was received at the Government installation designated for receipt of offers and was under the Government?s control prior to the time set for receipt of offers."

Our proposal was received at the Government installation designated for receipt of offers, i.e. Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and was effectively under the Government's control prior to 2:00 pm, the time set for receipt of offers, because the messenger was following the instructions of Air Force as to what to do and where to go with the proposal.

Accordingly, the proposal should be considered as part of the source selection.

In addition, the requirements of FAR 52.215-1(c)(3)(ii)(A)(3) are also met, because the AN-112KC aircraft is the only one that meets all of the requirements set forth in the System Requirements Document (SRD) for the KC-X. The other two bidders have publicly acknowledged that their aircraft do not meet all of the SRD requirements.

Our bid protest also alleges that certain Air Force personnel may have intentionally delayed the messenger from delivering our proposal, in order to create a pretext for refusing to consider it because they have political issues with our Eastern European supplier, thus violating the requirement that the program be a fair and equal competition, open to all qualified bidders.

The conduct of some Air Force personnel such as repeatedly leaking information to the press, granting one bidder a 60-day extension but denying any extension to USAE, intentionally delaying advising us that it would not be granted an extension, and intentionally delaying sending us the information disks needed to prepare the proposal, give rise to an appearance of impropriety regarding the conduct of some members of the Air Force.

We have always anticipated that the RFP will be a long and complex process. We do not intend to comment on interim developments as they occur. We remain confident that the AN-112KC aircraft meets all RFP requirements at the lowest price, and should be selected in a fair and open competition."

OK, so it's obvious that these guys never really had a chance in hell at winning,
but to be (or so as they claim) stalled intentionally by the USAF in the process,
it's pretty much a safe bet that the USAF isn't going to be seeing new tankers for at least several more years 
(thanks to everyone and their brother protesting how the program does, or doesn't, work).
Perhaps this might finally get the DoD to wake up and get the lead out and draft up some p
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