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Subject: 6*F-22 vs 6*Typhoon vs 6*Rafale in the UAE?!
giblets    11/16/2009 4:48:58 AM
According to both Flight Global, and Defence News, other than attending the Dubai airshow, the USAF, RAF, and FAF each sent 6 of their finest fighter aircraft to the desert Kingdom to take part in multinational exercises. Other than adding much fuel to the fire for forum members here! It raises many questions (such as why the USAF was unable to send 1 F-22 to Paris, and can now send 6 to the UAE, despite no drop in operational tempo). And will the F22 and Typhoon not be in the air at the same time again?
 
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cwDeici       12/9/2009 11:37:11 AM
Also, this is not a far-right military website. It is a hardware, conflict oriented right-wing milsite.
 
PS. Your perpetual bluffs that you don't live alone in a dinky flat and post fake cheery nonsense which you get massacred for to make your life worth something would come off as a smidgen less stupid if you managed to use whatever language you're communicating in properly.
The fact that you've spent years posting on english-language websites without improving your grammar and spelling is strong proof that you're a bottom feeder. 
 
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cwDeici       12/9/2009 11:44:50 AM
That you don't simply spend all your time in French forums surprises me. Perhaps even they do not sign you a blank check. Certainly though there must be plenty of French fanboys out there ready to sooth your ego and praise whatever picture or blurb you download/copy and paste in for them with comments.
The recognition you seek will never be granted outside of such a circle, and I can tell your armour is beginning to wear thin...
If you have wisdom you would leave and live happily in your web. Alas I believe you will continue to pester the people who do know stuff so that people like me who come here to read their posts are confronted with nothing but endless threads where they refute your insane theories and counterinsult.
 
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cwDeici       12/9/2009 11:57:03 AM
At any rate, for correlation of the facts I've just stated about this forum and it's focus towards knowledge (though the articles are quite often mediocre or poor when not average or better) I will point out that there are left-leaning Americans and non-Americans here who are respected.
 
In other words, people of your general ideals and colors are respected while you are not. This means you're either a super genious or just really stupid and cussed, and without resorting to my now heavy bias against you the latter is far more likely just by statistics.
 
If you'll study the people with the same group identities who are respected you'll notice they speak cautiously about subjects they don't know intimately and treat discussions like learning oppertunities and not fights where a miniscule correction may be possible post-game.
 

You do the exact opposite and attack the ones who are respected when they disagree with you and that is why you're disrespected and strongly disliked here and why noone wants you around. And yet you won't leave us alone... At this point even when you say things that occasionally make sense noone's going to bother to listen unless they have the patience of a saint, there's too much detritus for anyone to bother.
 
Just leave permanently or get a new IP or account after reforming yourself (though I doubt you ever will) though I think you'll earn the exact same reputation soon enough.
 
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cwDeici       12/9/2009 12:03:18 PM

Ok Gentlemen , it is my own fault if I get some slack , if it is what you want me to say .

Just a question : do I have to agree that everything the USA do is the best there is ? Just asking ...


...

 

Cheers .




You didn't answer his question there about your bait and switch. Probably because you didn't actually have any information on the air defense systems you posted and was hoping for, I quote: "Gee, forget about that old topic. What a nice piece of kit? Please tell us what it can do oh mighty Bluewings!"
 
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cwDeici       12/9/2009 12:10:08 PM

JJ :


""i'm not anti french, thales is one of aussies bigger suppliers, i just dont like the way you act""

 

Fine . I 'll remember .

 

Since it seems that I don 't know how to post in a decent manner here on StrategyPage (far right military site) , how should I respond when I post some material some other users are just ignoring them or treating them as "advert brochures" ?


Should I try to find some better (?) material on open sources ? I do not have any "clearance" or whatsoever to have access to confidential data and if I had , I wouldn 't post them anyway for legal reasons .

Do I have to keep silence and act like I did not post anything and the other posters are right : it is garbage ?


Am I only allowed to ask questions and say "thank you Sir" when someone bother to respond ?

 

I mean , my attitude can be blamed but at least , have the politeness not to discard every paper I post because it is posted by me .


As an example , let 's take the HA-100 topic if you please . Some characteristics of the radar have been posted and compared with a similar US system . It seems that one radar works better than the other .


Soon , some people started to react very aggressively for apparently no other reasons than :

-1) it 's from BW


-2) it can 't be

 

Ok . I agree that it would be better to ask to one of the person behind the radar itself , maybe that person would be nicer than I am and would respond to questions regarding the HA-100 radar .


So , maybe one could ask to Jean-Philippe Brunet , he is the physicien behind the radar . He is also a Director Scientific at Thalès .

The articles I have posted are refering directly to his work . He also wrote articles in Air&Cosmos . I also have a US pdf study who speak about the RIAS radar as an extraordinary concept . But since it is on open sources , it is going to be discarded by many posters ...


What should I do ?

Organize a "Teamspeak" session with Mr Brunet and the SP posters to make a point ?


 

One more time , I understand my limited knowledge but please , try to read the papers I try to provide with a bit more respect , I didn 't write them .


 

You know , France has some very clever people and we sometimes "invent" things or ameliorate others .

 

Cheers .


 





Towards the start of this post it looks like you're thinking about finally surfacing, amidst customary flak (intended to defend why people loath you... it must be because they're all extremists...) before retreating back into the depths with your submarine.
To answer the first half: We all strongly dislike you and wish that you leave. That would be a genious move on your part saving you from anguish and us from irritation. I cannot say anyone would be thankful, but some emotion akin to that would certainly be elicited in relief by everyone tired of the lack of action by the dead moderators. It would be a mercy to you to leave for greener fields and for us to watch the people who know their stuff beat up ignoramuses of a higher order or goodness forbid have a discussion with each other.
 
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cwDeici       12/9/2009 12:19:07 PM




C 'Mon Gentlemen , keep up !



Post decent stuff or get lost . You made me angry .



 



Cheers .









Tomahawk's range is 1500+ km.

 

As for your other noise, who cares? Its just noise. Try ti accept a little education.

 

Also, nice quip about the anti French theory.


 

 
Hamilcar    Replies to where my name is taken in vain.......:-)   12/5/2009 9:08:51 AM




 Subject: StrategyPage Law of Posts

sentinel28a    12/4/2009 3:48:15 PM

 

This is a JOKE response.


 

Inspired by a DA post, the following is meant entirely in fun.

 

Definition: "In any thread in which the word 'China,' 'spy,' 'panda,' or 'the' is included, Nanheyangrouchan will claim that the PRC is up to no good. If pressed, he will then imply that the way to solve this problem is immediate war, and that anyone who disagrees is a foul panda-licker."

 

But the PRC government are up to no good.




Collorary One: "If the thread includes anything remotely associated with apocalyptic predictions, Le Zookeeper will post within 48 hours something regarding Mayan calendars and end his post with 'hahaha America going to go under soon u better get ready.'" This will then elicit groans from other posters who wonder how a self-professed genius can't spell."





But the PRC government are up to no good. (Wrong response?) Well, how about that someone needs to take his meds and stop talking textese that was obsolete five years ago?

 

Collorary Two: "Any mention or even speaking the word 'Rafale' aloud will immediately bring a post by Bluewings claiming that the Rafale is the best fighter ever made, because it is French, followed by the claim that the reason why the world hasn't realized this yet is because the F-35 is an American plot. Such posts will appear even if the thread is on wheat germ."

 

True.





Collorary Three: "Any Rafale thread will grow to gargantuan proportions within no less than 12 hours, and will follow the following format:

 

True





BW claims the Rafale is perfect;

 

True

 
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Bluewings12       12/9/2009 1:54:57 PM
Hamilcar :
""Not my fault if you cannot understand SIMPLE English.""
 
I do understand english and better than you understand radars . It is YOU who is changing topic and trying to hide the fact that you don 't have a clue . When I talk about various low band radars using UHF , VHF and other useful bands to detect and track LO platform , you come with a pdf talking about millimeter radars for cars !?
Any poster who took the time to read your pdf must be doing what I do : wandering and laughing .
So , please enlight us on why you posted such irrelevant paper .
 
cwDeici , spare me your BS . This way , you 're gonna save your time , I don 't give a monkey about your posts anyway .
 
Cheers .
 
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Hamilcar       12/9/2009 2:45:07 PM

Hamilcar :


""Not my fault if you cannot understand SIMPLE English.""

 

I do understand english and better than you understand radars . It is YOU who is changing topic and trying to hide the fact that you don 't have a clue . When I talk about various low band radars using UHF , VHF and other useful bands to detect and track LO platform , you come with a pdf talking about millimeter radars for cars !?


Any poster who took the time to read your pdf must be doing what I do : wandering and laughing .


So , please enlight us on why you posted such irrelevant paper .

 

cwDeici , spare me your BS . This way , you 're gonna save your time , I don 't give a monkey about your posts anyway .


 

Cheers .



Sad sad little man.
 
If you get a scatter return  off a target that cannot be resolved by a single receiver. antenna, you can try to use a fixed site array of POLE antennas-simple aerials to catch pieces of the reflected return, do a time measurement, compare the times of the pieces of signal you did manage to get and you can establi9sh TWO things provided you have a fixed distance among your aerials that a;llows to plot thr signal footprint. You can find .that something is out there along a certain bearing, and you can tell its approximate speed without needing a doppler. If its close enough, you can even get a crude angle measurement off of it. 
 
The point is that it has to be fixed surveyed pole array to do this. It works for any radar frequency assuming you can tune the receiver, poster and at most scales-HENCE RIAS. It also works in reverse by the way as you can get a signal to a moving pole array if the pole array us a plotted known size and you get a scattered signal from a fixed target. I won't belabor how tough it is to do, but it us theoretically possible as long as you have a fixed distance and fixed period as you move that you know never changes among the aerials.     
 
You just don't get concepts. Your friend saw millimeter and ASSUMED as he tried to explain what was beyond you both to understand  what I drove at. I just wondered if you could see concept when it was spelled and diagrammed out for you so that a patent clerk could .umderstand it. You didn't, so...............I laugh again.    
 
Pathetic. 
 
   
         
 
 
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sentinel28a       12/9/2009 2:59:10 PM
It's not a case of having to agree with everything the US does, or even the assumption that everything the US does is perfect, BW.  Come over to the US board sometime, and believe me, if you think Hamlicar is harsh here, you ain't seen nothing yet.  I tend to be nastier myself, because I care deeply about my country.  If the Rafale sells or doesn't, it has no effect on my life at all; if the EPA is setting itself up to be the Plenipotentiary for the Five-Year Plan--Hermann Goering's erstwhile department--that does affect me and I'm going to say something about it!  So we Americans have plenty to say when we think our country is screwing things up royally.
 
So this isn't an attack on France, and you shouldn't think it is.  If every Rafale spontaneously combusted tomorrow, France would not be destroyed as a nation.  It would continue to survive and probably prosper.
 
The problem is, BW, you attack other posters as being fools or idiots if they disagree with you, and it makes you enemies.  Don't tell me you've tried to be polite, because you haven't!  Anytime someone looks crosseyed at the Rafale, you take it as a personal and national insult, and you viciously attack them.  When we agree with you, you're friendly and kind and generally the decent truck drivin' man that I think you are.  When we don't...
 
No one on this board (except maybe Hamlicar, who does have a dislike for French equipment) has ever said the Rafale was a crap plane.  I certainly haven't.  However, there are those of us who will not acknowledge it as the Best 4th/4.5th/5th generation fighter EVER, and that's where you seem to feel that by doing so, we're taking a leak on the tricolor.
 
 
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Bluewings12       12/9/2009 3:02:48 PM
Someone asked earlier why the topic switched for a while to radars .
Well , since we 're talking about the Typhoon , the Rafale and the F-22 Raptor~which is a LO aircraft~ , detecting such a threat is important .
 
As it stands , fighter 's radars have a very hard time to detect and track LO jets and fitting a low band radar on an aircraft is not possible yet . Some Companies are actually trying to find a way but it is complicated to say the least .
So , using a ground radar to provide a firing solution for a fighter (or for a SAM) is ~for now~ a very interesting option .
It has been the option chosen by the Serbs to down a F-117 anyway . NATO has been investigating and the most probable option is the use of a Tamara radar . One poster seems to not believe that the Serbs did have any Tamara system when they had many . It is also a known fact that Czechs are very clever about radars ant they could teach one thing or two to the Russians .
 
I am very interested to know what could be the best way to do it . As an example , how could one defends his airspace against enemy LO fighters ? 
 
Cheers .
 
 
 
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