Note that the word caliber is DIMENSIONLESS by itself and requires a type of unit to be appended to the number to mean anything! Does 14 caliber mean a 14"( the " symbol denoting the units in this case!) or .14" a micro-caliber varmint round? The fraise 14 by itself is meaningless with out further context!
Again you have taken part of one sentence and part of a second and taken both parts out of context in relation to the statements that they were answering and then turned it into something entirely different.
1. The 30 MM was my comment, not related to the description of that picture in which you mention the bullet hole though the insignia. It was in reference to my OPINION that the damage looked more like that from a 30 mm shell than a 20 mm shell.
2. To then claim that I made the resulting idiotic statement that you pieced together out of fragments of two sentences that were related to other things entirely, is dishonest at the least and down right gutless girly-man at worst! Man up, make honest arguments related to specific posts and try to stay on topic!
This is a common misconception. The P-38 was the most feared Allied fighter plane by the Luftwaffe! It did not get that reputation by not killing people! It had an excellent K/L ratio in Europe! It was just very much better in the PTO. It was faster than any contemporary plane in REAL terms! We go through this all the time. Placard figures have little or nothing to do with real life performance! Did you know that the widely published top speed of the P-38 at 414 MPH was 33 MPH below it's WEP speed? That number is made using MTO power. Note that the rest of the Allied planes were rated at WEP power ratings? Did you know that all German planes were also rated at WEP power settings? For instance, the P-51D could only go 410 MPH at MTO power! Crank it up, or shove the throttle all the way forward to WEP and it would go ~437 MPH! The Turbo-chargers in the P-38 and -47 made them much faster at higher altitude than they would appear if you only used the placard numbers. But much more important than that is the MAXIMUM CRUISING SPEED! MTO and WEP could only be used for FIVE MINUTES or LESS before the engine blew up! That's a guaranteed kill WO firing a shot! So it's how fast is the plane at the maximum throttle POS it could sustain and still reach the mission range! This is at best about 75% power and could often be as low as 50-55%.
I would dispute that there was that much difference between the two. The FW-190 could carry a larger bomb load than the P-47. It had more and more effective firepower. Depending on the model, it was faster at high and medium altitudes that the P-47. The short span version could out roll all European contemporaries and the P-47 and 51, but not the P-38 with hydraulic aileron actuation. The P-47 and 51 could both out turn the 190 at selected altitudes and speeds. Those rolls reversed at other altitudes, speeds and models. Which models are we talking about? What altitudes and speeds? Only the P-38 had a superior performance across the model range and time over it's then contemporary foes.
I would state that the only way to make this a real argument instead of a my 190D is better than your Spitfire-I, is to stipulate that only aircraft that had at LEAST 500, or 1,000 IN SERVICE (You choose!) at the same time during the actual war, and then that types be compared against their contemporary foes! under these rules the best Spit is the IX, the best 190 is the D, the best 51 is the any, the best 109 is any at their time!
Now to make my case for a single engined fighter plane is the TA-152H ( Mit
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