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Subject: Su-37 vs. F-22
TankFREAK    11/3/2005 5:39:49 PM
Which do you think is better? The F-22 has stealth features (not completely stealth) and the Su-37 has super-maunverability on it's side (front canards+thrust vectoring). No doubt if there was no stealth and it was an actual dog fight, the Su-37 would undoubtly win. But how effective the F-22's stealth is not completely verified. IMO, i would say that the Su-37 'Terminator' is better, as it has supermanuverability (it can perform the world-reknowned kulbit, which is basically doing a somersault within it's own length). If we knew more about how effective the stealth is on the F-22, i might sway my decision, but at least for the time being, i say the Su-37 is better. What's your take on this?
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DarthAmerica    The Winner is...   11/3/2005 7:09:37 PM
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TankFREAK    RE:The Winner is...   11/3/2005 7:23:14 PM
Um, really, i'm serious, either one of the fighters. Not a goodyear blimp.
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Yimmy    RE:The Winner is...   11/3/2005 7:59:34 PM
People just get a bit tetchy when people post an "a" vs "b" thread, thats all. All in all, the F22 is far superior. I think it is safe to say the F22 has superior electronics and avonics, far more stealthy, more capable munitions etc. I think possibly the Su37 may have the superior radar, but I wouldn't know.
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DarthAmerica    RE:The Winner is...   11/3/2005 8:45:17 PM
>>>I think possibly the Su37 may have the superior radar, but I wouldn't know.<<< ---The radar or more correctly the EW suite on the F-22 is by far more capable and powerful than the set on any SU series. To even compare them is almost blasphamous. In fact the F-22's radar could probably destroy or at least mission kill a SU by itself without using ordinance.
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Shooter    RE:The Winner is...   11/3/2005 10:35:08 PM
If you think the Big Su cam out maneuver the svelt -22, you are clearly mistaken. Anyone with a lick of sence and KNOWLEDGE knows that canards and strakes and all the other add ons are just fixes for design defects. In the catagories that really count the F-22 has much more of the good stuff and much less of the bad stuff! no the F-22 can out point the big Su easily! Not to mention the stuff that really matters in combat THE AVIONICS!!!!!
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Phaid    RE:The Winner is...   11/3/2005 11:15:14 PM
Yes, clearly the Su-37 is the best airplane on earth, which must explain why the Russians decided not to produce it and instead are proceeding with the PAK-FA, which, although it exists only on paper, has a whole lot more in common with the F-22 than with the Su-37.
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hybrid    RE:The Winner is...   11/4/2005 2:24:16 AM
Hey its the best airplane you can get in Ace Combat 4 (bar none the X-02 but thats cheating!!! muahahaha) so it OBVIOUSLY must be the best.
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AussieEngineer    RE:The Winner is...   11/4/2005 6:30:19 AM
yeah, future wars will all be about who performs the best at an airshow. It will be like a break dance fight(how I loath those), except with jet fighters doing tricks and counter tricks along the length of the runway all to sound of 80's house tracks.
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AussieEngineer    RE:The Winner is...   11/4/2005 6:34:25 AM">
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DropBear    RE:The Winner is...   11/4/2005 7:57:51 AM
And what was that you were saying earlier about engineers? ;)
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