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Subject: papareezoo and his paki educational system challenge
counterstrike    11/28/2005 11:35:33 PM
NOTE: papareezoo, please read every single line of this, and then don’t say you didn’t read some thing latter on >>and cs, i didn read about that, else i would have replied you. anyways i am ready to take on you too<< You have done two mistakes here mate first; you knew I did invite you for a debate! I say this because I didn’t mention it in one corner I wrote a whole passage on it and you say that you didn’t come across it. Here is the link to it and I have pasted the passage here for your convenience http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/594-872.asp “Mate let me ask you one thing! Do you know who mughals (main reason for spreading islam) are? Do you know who Akbar is? Do you know how he is called here in India? – Akbar the great!!( he is seen as a hero, even though his empire spread islam which is not for Indians in your thought) And what are the hindu kings called Pakistan if you know if they existed in the history of Pakistan? I can prove you that you are reading a wrong history from a neutral source and your own news Papers! Up to the challenge??” The second thing is you could have ignored it as you did it previously. What do you think? What ever you read as history was correct? It needed a manipulation to instill hatred against India and to justify the cause of Pakistan.and what did you think I am going debate with home made facts like 85%.. kashmiris want to join pakistan so that you can easily put them to the ditch? Now let me start of with an article written by a famous Pakistani columnist Ardeshir Cowasjee in your newspaper “DAWN” 25 January 2005, so don’t say this as an Indian Rant, now In the following text authors words will be in normal text encoded within a >> <<, while my comments to the author and you will be in bold or italics http://www.dawn.com/weekly/cowas/20040125.htm Intolerance? bigotry? ignorance? By Ardeshir Cowasjee >>One should perhaps be 'shocked' to read in Professor A.H. Nayyar and Ahmad Salim's report on the State of Curricula and Textbooks in Pakistan (pub.2003 ) that the intended perversion of Pakistan's education system and national curricula came about as early as November 1947, even before the death of the country's founder (whose firm belief it was that 'religion or caste or creed has nothing to do with the business of the state'). << what is there get shocked sir, we all know about Pakistan, may be you wouldn’t have known a lot being a paki yourself. Papareezoo, now do you know why I called Jhinna was the best leader of Pakistan in one of my posts. but still I doubt why this secular man sited religion as a reason for partion?? May be I was wrong telling that he was the best >>However, since we are all now immune to shock (other than the venerable leadership of this country) we accept as quite natural to learn that the practice of the distortion and manipulation of education (as is the case with the practice of corruption) started for us from day one.<< lol.. sir now you are on target! Now If you could meet this poor chap called papareezoo just pass it on to him will you? >>In those early days, the government of Pakistan rounded up whatever educationists could be found, organized a conference, and asked them to establish guidelines for the nation's future education policies. The so-called educationists produced by Pakistan's birth pangs recommended the 'adoption of Islamic ideology as the basis of education.' This, again, could be somewhat amazing information, considering that the Objectives Resolution was not imposed on the nation until March 1949.<< of course sir the biggest mistake! (adoption of Islamic ideology) >>However, and despite this prescribed policy of the linkage of history and other subjects with an ideology, the rot was initially kept at bay and the textbooks in our schools during the 1950s and 1960s were remarkably balanced. Ancient Hindu history and culture was not ignored as if it had never existed. Our children were taught that their history started off with the ancient South Asian civilizations of Moenjodaro, Harappa and Taxila. The early Hindu and Buddhist kingdoms were dealt with factually, as was the advent of Islam to the subcontinent - so factually that not only were the ancient civilizations were praised for their great and good achievements.<< papareezoo! After reading this I can sense a few butterflies in your tummy, no manipulations uh?...lol. No wonder you guys see Hindus as worthless! You forgot their culture and you are nothing but a few converts, whose ancestors feared for their life & burdened by tax on non-Muslims left Hinduism & Buddhism and the irony is you are trying to destroy a society to which your culture and true blood comes from…lol >>Facts continued all the way down in the curricula right up to and after partition. Mahatma Gandhi, who now either never existed,
 
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counterstrike    RE:papareezoo and his paki educational system challenge   11/28/2005 11:48:43 PM
actually it was dated 25 january 2004, sorry!
 
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papareezoo    RE:papareezoo and his paki educational system challenge   11/29/2005 3:19:04 AM
Dear CS, In last posts/mails (I am not confirmed), I had told you that, I have no time to read yours and others posts in details due to lack of time. Sorry for that. So, will you please summarize, what you have written in your recent post. And yes, I wish you to write Pakistani and not Paki and let me tell you, i re-gained 15000/- to bet again for India in Mombai ODI. Surely, I have a mind, although not great than you, but can match you in various matters.
 
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counterstrike    RE:papareezoo and his paki educational system challenge   11/29/2005 5:47:27 AM
>>Dear CS, In last posts/mails (I am not confirmed), I had told you that, I have no time to read yours and others posts in details due to lack of time. Sorry for that. So, will you please summarize, what you have written in your recent post. And yes, I wish you to write Pakistani and not Paki and let me tell you, i re-gained 15000/- to bet again for India in Mombai ODI.<< mate, I am challenging you about your educational system (which) you did accept and I had done that before in a post. http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/594-872.asp for which you had time to write Abu tujhay Salam without reading what I had written?? You seem to be a person who has just recovered from Amnesia! Well you seem to be a great gambler?? BTW how much do you earn?? They way you gamble either you must be quite rich or you must be out of your mind! I hope the former one was right? >>Surely, I have a mind, although not great than you, but can match you in various matters.<< now that’s exactly I want from you! There is no compulsion that you should be wizard to understand the Indo-pak crisis its enough that you have some experience, in that way, I have to bow to you because I am much younger to you! But you seem to be blinded by your jingoism
 
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papareezoo    RE:CS, Badmaash hotay jarahay ho....hay na...   11/29/2005 6:36:16 AM
O man, don't bow to me. (Actually for how many times will you perform this)lol. Will you give me, your contact number, i want to talk to you, or you dial me on my mob.no: +9291-30189 55391 Actually, I am not that rich. I belong to a moderate family, but the matter of fact, I am younger to all and have no financial burdone on me to bear. That's why, I enjoy my life. You know my job and duties, so i am leting you know about my salary, which is 65k.
 
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counterstrike    RE:CS, Badmaash hotay jarahay ho....hay na...   11/29/2005 6:59:22 AM
>>O man, don't bow to me. (Actually for how many times will you perform this)lol.<< thats the respect for your age man! you are older than me, i respect my elders. now how many times? till you act like an elder and more mature person
 
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papareezoo    RE:CS, Badmaash hotay jarahay ho....hay na...   11/29/2005 11:31:30 PM
<< thats the respect for your age man! you are older than me, i respect my elders. now how many times? till you act like an elder and more mature person>> Thank you, but what about tsci type guys? when will they learn to respect?
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:CS, Badmaash hotay jarahay ho....hay na...   11/30/2005 1:43:43 AM
The day Islam reforms Or the Koran is banished forever! Now tell me what comes first !?!?!!!?!?!??! ;)
 
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counterstrike    RE:CS, Badmaash hotay jarahay ho....hay na...   11/30/2005 7:37:11 AM
"<< thats the respect for your age man! you are older than me, i respect my elders. now how many times? till you act like an elder and more mature person>> Thank you" I think its time you keep up your respect by refuting my challenge about the educational system so that I can respect you more!
 
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