Military History | How To Make War | Wars Around the World Rules of Use How to Behave on an Internet Forum
Pakistan Discussion Board
   Return to Topic Page
Subject: Al Qaeda and the barbwire
papareezoo    11/25/2005 12:13:56 AM
Few of my friends are still have the view that, Al-Qaeda is a Muslim organization that ‘works’ for Islam. They also ask me to provide URL’s and etc. dude, why to rely on the posts of the others; lets gather our mind for Al-Qaeda deeds. If you people try out to show the good image of Hinduism. Will you kill any person on religious basis? Never. Al-Qaeda is doing so, to blame Islam and to bring Islam against America as our dear America always wants to have an enemy. First he had communism and now Islam. I know, CBJ, CS, TSI, PP etc (although they write against Islam & Pakistan), are talented and educated to some extent. Don’t you think, who provides Al-Qaeda with the findings? With the arms and ammunitions? And with the technology that even European countries don’t have? Osama was a front line American ally against Russia. And he is still a front line friend of America against Islam. It’s an important day for me. I have a bet of Rs.15000/- for India to win Kolkata ODI and I am also dating my friend on 12:00 noon. So, you guys keep on praying for me and posting replies to it. And I will be back for an interesting evening session.
 
Quote    Reply

Show Only Poster Name and Title     Newest to Oldest
Pages: 1 2
counterstrike    RE:Al Qaeda and the barbwire..papareezoo   11/25/2005 2:36:26 PM
=================================================================================== after reading my reply read the PS >>Few of my friends are still have the view that, Al-Qaeda is a Muslim organization that �works� for Islam.<< and you still doubt that??...lol and I only hope that you are ignorant of that fact ( well that makes you a bad and a peaceful muslim, of course) and If you are not then we are having some glimpses of Allah’s most be-loved men! >>They also ask me to provide URL�s and etc. dude, why to rely on the posts of the others; lets gather our mind for Al-Qaeda deeds.<< mate, lets just do that! But gathering a mind on Al-Qaeda’s deeds will never seem divine to be alter ego of a religion so lets look what Islam says and what al-qeada does?? >>If you people try out to show the good image of Hinduism. Will you kill any person on religious basis? Never.<< so you have given up to Hinduism, well. At last some light at the end of the tunnel?? No, apparently not!, to show Islam in good light you lift Hinduism!... yes many religions won't do that but Islam was spred that way by Jihad,read some history mate! >>Al-Qaeda is doing so, to blame Islam and to bring Islam against America<< to blame Islam??.... mate, you look rather confused. Well take up you Quran & hadiths read some lines and ponder about it for some time… you will know the truth! “Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).” Well I don’t see how a so called prophet of god be speaking about terror! And owes his victory to terror! Similarity : Al-qeada & Osama wins by terror so did Islam & Muhammad(PUBH) Quran7:4 How many towns have We destroyed (for their sins)? Our punishment took them on a sudden by night or while they slept for their afternoon rest. well, how is Allah talking about guerilla war-fare? And destruction of towns…and he lost his count?? Similarity : Al-queda does the same thing by attacking innocent children and women (sinners in the eyes of Islam & Allah) when they least expect. Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.” Similarity : isn’t this exactly what al-qeada is doing!! dude, show me a single thing in any religious text of other religions or the one you most like to Bash Hinduism, to containing such harshness?? I don’t think I find such a thing even in baghavdgita, which was about war! Volume 9, Book 84, Number 59: Narrated Abu Huraira: When the Prophet died and Abu Bakr became his successor and some of the Arabs reverted to disbelief, 'Umar said, "O Abu Bakr! How can you fight these people although Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, 'and whoever said,'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', Allah will save his property and his life from me, unless (he does something for which he receives legal punishment) justly, and his account will be with Allah?' "Abu Bakr said, "By Allah! I will fight whoever differentiates between prayers and Zakat as Zakat is the right to be taken from property (according to Allah's Orders). By Allah! If they refused to pay me even a kid they used to pay to Allah's Apostle, I would fight with them for withholding it." 'Umar said, "By Allah: It was nothing, but I noticed that Allah opened Abu Bakr's chest towards the decision to fight, therefore I realized that his decision was right." Similarity : same thing!! Al-qeada too won’t stop until evey one is a muslim so did/does muhammad’s Islam Just ask yourself a simple question how can a prophet tell lies? Hear this! Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427: Narrated Zahdam: We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari and there were friendly relations between us and this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the people there was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Come on (and eat),for I have seen Allah's Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eati
 
Quote    Reply

counterstrike    RE:Al Qaeda and the barbwire..papareezoo   11/25/2005 2:40:16 PM
after reading my reply, do read the PS,/b> >>Few of my friends are still have the view that, Al-Qaeda is a Muslim organization that �works� for Islam.<< and you still doubt that??...lol and I only hope that you are ignorant of that fact ( well that makes you a bad and a peaceful muslim, of course) and If you are not then we are having some glimpses of Allah’s most be-loved men! >>They also ask me to provide URL�s and etc. dude, why to rely on the posts of the others; lets gather our mind for Al-Qaeda deeds.<< mate, lets just do that! But gathering a mind on Al-Qaeda’s deeds will never seem divine to be alter ego of a religion so lets look what Islam says and what al-qeada does?? >>If you people try out to show the good image of Hinduism. Will you kill any person on religious basis? Never.<< so you have given up to Hinduism, well. At last some light at the end of the tunnel?? No, apparently not!, to show Islam in good light you lift Hinduism!... >>Al-Qaeda is doing so, to blame Islam and to bring Islam against America<< to blame Islam??.... mate, you look rather confused. Well take up you Quran & hadiths read some lines and ponder about it for some time… you will know the truth! “Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).” Well I don’t see how a so called prophet of god be speaking about terror! And owes his victory to terror! Similarity : Al-qeada & Osama wins by terror so did Islam & Muhammad(PUBH) Quran7:4 How many towns have We destroyed (for their sins)? Our punishment took them on a sudden by night or while they slept for their afternoon rest. well, how is Allah talking about guerilla war-fare? And destruction of towns…and he lost his count?? Similarity : Al-queda does the same thing by attacking innocent children and women (sinners in the eyes of Islam & Allah) when they least expect. Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.” Similarity : isn’t this exactly what al-qeada is doing!! dude, show me a single thing in any religious text of other religions or the one you most like to Bash Hinduism, to containing such harshness?? I don’t think I find such a thing even in baghavdgita, which was about war! Volume 9, Book 84, Number 59: Narrated Abu Huraira: When the Prophet died and Abu Bakr became his successor and some of the Arabs reverted to disbelief, 'Umar said, "O Abu Bakr! How can you fight these people although Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, 'and whoever said,'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', Allah will save his property and his life from me, unless (he does something for which he receives legal punishment) justly, and his account will be with Allah?' "Abu Bakr said, "By Allah! I will fight whoever differentiates between prayers and Zakat as Zakat is the right to be taken from property (according to Allah's Orders). By Allah! If they refused to pay me even a kid they used to pay to Allah's Apostle, I would fight with them for withholding it." 'Umar said, "By Allah: It was nothing, but I noticed that Allah opened Abu Bakr's chest towards the decision to fight, therefore I realized that his decision was right." Similarity : same thing!! Al-qeada too won’t stop until evey one is a muslim so did/does muhammad’s Islam Just ask yourself a simple question how can a prophet tell lies? Hear this! Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427: Narrated Zahdam: We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari and there were friendly relations between us and this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the people there was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Come on (and eat),for I have seen Allah's Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eating something (dirty) and since then I have disliked it, and have taken an oath that I shall not eat it ' Abu Musa said, "Come on, I will tell you (or narrate to you). Once I wen
 
Quote    Reply

counterstrike    RE:Al Qaeda and the barbwire..papareezoo   11/25/2005 2:46:38 PM
===================================================================================== after reading my reply, do read my PS >>Few of my friends are still have the view that, Al-Qaeda is a Muslim organization that �works� for Islam.<< and you still doubt that??...lol and I only hope that you are ignorant of that fact ( well that makes you a bad and a peaceful muslim, of course) and If you are not then we are having some glimpses of Allah’s most be-loved men! >>They also ask me to provide URL�s and etc. dude, why to rely on the posts of the others; lets gather our mind for Al-Qaeda deeds.<< mate, lets just do that! But gathering a mind on Al-Qaeda’s deeds will never seem divine to be alter ego of a religion so lets look what Islam says and what al-qeada does?? >>If you people try out to show the good image of Hinduism. Will you kill any person on religious basis? Never.<< so you have given up to Hinduism, well. At last some light at the end of the tunnel?? No, apparently not!, to show Islam in good light you lift Hinduism!... yes many religions won't do that but Islam was spread that way by Jihad,read some history mate! >>Al-Qaeda is doing so, to blame Islam and to bring Islam against America<< to blame Islam??.... mate, you look rather confused. Well take up you Quran & hadiths read some lines and ponder about it for some time… you will know the truth! “Volume 4, Book 52, Number 220: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand." Abu Huraira added: Allah's Apostle has left the world and now you, people, are bringing out those treasures (i.e. the Prophet did not benefit by them).” Well I don’t see how a so called prophet of god be speaking about terror! And owes his victory to terror! Similarity : Al-qeada & Osama wins by terror so did Islam & Muhammad(PUBH) Quran7:4 How many towns have We destroyed (for their sins)? Our punishment took them on a sudden by night or while they slept for their afternoon rest. well, how is Allah talking about guerilla war-fare? And destruction of towns…and he lost his count?? Similarity : Al-queda does the same thing by attacking innocent children and women (sinners in the eyes of Islam & Allah) when they least expect. Qur’an 8:12 “Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: ‘I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.” Similarity : isn’t this exactly what al-qeada is doing!! dude, show me a single thing in any religious text of other religions or the one you most like to Bash Hinduism, to containing such harshness?? I don’t think I find such a thing even in baghavdgita, which was about war! Volume 9, Book 84, Number 59: Narrated Abu Huraira: When the Prophet died and Abu Bakr became his successor and some of the Arabs reverted to disbelief, 'Umar said, "O Abu Bakr! How can you fight these people although Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, 'and whoever said,'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', Allah will save his property and his life from me, unless (he does something for which he receives legal punishment) justly, and his account will be with Allah?' "Abu Bakr said, "By Allah! I will fight whoever differentiates between prayers and Zakat as Zakat is the right to be taken from property (according to Allah's Orders). By Allah! If they refused to pay me even a kid they used to pay to Allah's Apostle, I would fight with them for withholding it." 'Umar said, "By Allah: It was nothing, but I noticed that Allah opened Abu Bakr's chest towards the decision to fight, therefore I realized that his decision was right." Similarity : same thing!! Al-qeada too won’t stop until evey one is a muslim so did/does muhammad’s Islam Just ask yourself a simple question how can a prophet tell lies? Hear this! Volume 7, Book 67, Number 427: Narrated Zahdam: We were in the company of Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari and there were friendly relations between us and this tribe of Jarm. Abu Musa was presented with a dish containing chicken. Among the people there was sitting a red-faced man who did not come near the food. Abu Musa said (to him), "Come on (and eat),for I have seen Allah's Apostle eating of it (i.e. chicken)." He said, "I have seen it eat
 
Quote    Reply

counterstrike    RE:SORRY..CONNECTIVITY PROBS   11/25/2005 2:48:14 PM
sorry got the same post three times seemingly I had some connectivity problems
 
Quote    Reply

papareezoo    RE:SORRY..CONNECTIVITY PROBS   11/25/2005 11:57:15 PM
No, You were connected well. Dude! Thanks for your time to write in details. But in my last e-mail, I had requested you to read the translation of Qura`an Majeed by some most prestigious, respected and learned Clerics. They are no short in India. I also told you, to go through the books written by neutral writers and not by the Hindu authors. For surely, I will sling mud (As a Muslim) when I am up against writing a book on Hinduism. Your entire study is based on the same books, I am asking you not to read. Yes, this is for the 3rd time, I lost bet for India. They will play that poorly, I had no mind. Dating was good, but extremely costly. 55% of my salary expanded on recent date. It’s good that “Bala Sahab Thakray” grand-daughter embraced Islam and married to a Muslim Doctor. But, I want to assure you that, Al-Qaeda is an anti-Islamic terrorist organization. Each and every al-qaeda member should be sentenced to death.
 
Quote    Reply

counterstrike    RE:SORRY..CONNECTIVITY PROBS   11/26/2005 5:40:42 AM
================================================================================== >>I also told you, to go through the books written by neutral writers and not by the Hindu authors. For surely, I will sling mud (As a Muslim) when I am up against writing a book on Hinduism. Your entire study is based on the same books, I am asking you not to read.<< well, I guess yusuf Ali is a hindu for you..LOL >>Yes, this is for the 3rd time, I lost bet for India. They will play that poorly, I had no mind.<< >>I had no mind<<, well saying Al-qeada is against Islam I am sure you didn't! >>But, I want to assure you that, Al-Qaeda is an anti-Islamic terrorist organization. Each and every al-qaeda member should be sentenced to death.<< and what about HUM, LET HUl...etc who support osama must be hailed as freedom fighters..LOL ====================================================================================
 
Quote    Reply

papareezoo    RE:Al Qaeda and the barbwire   11/30/2005 5:49:28 AM
Can anyone of you indiots dare to proof, Al-Qaeda is not an American Sponsord agency.
 
Quote    Reply

coolboyjay    RE:Al Qaeda and the barbwire   11/30/2005 6:49:21 AM
Going by your logic, the BJP, the RSS and the Shiv Sena should be funded by Muslims!! Maybe even the gujrat riots were done by the muslims? Oh!! come on.. this is really absurd. I'm sorry u lost the bet, but isn't gambling against Islam? (hehe just kiddin - plz don't mind) Anyway, I hope that u had a nice date. Now coming to the real issue. An average Muslim is happy to see a guy accepting Islam. compare that to medivial christianity.. U would find a lot of similarities. Accept that a religion, like all other things, has to evolve.. We accept that castism is bad, but no Islamic country is ready to accept that discrimination against women is bad. Why is it so? Now, U know that Islam today supresses women, I don't wanna know about the past, don't wanna know what the religion teaches, just telling u the ground realities..
 
Quote    Reply

counterstrike    CBJ   11/30/2005 7:30:26 AM
================================================================================= >>We accept that castism is bad<< do you think islam doesn't have one??? thats the biggest lie they make us belive don't they?? now let me point out there casts. one is sunni and the rest are here . Jarudiyah Followers of Abu'l-Jarud, They believe Prophet (pbuh) designated Ali (ra) as the Imam by his characteristics but not by name. 2. Sulaimaniah / Jaririyah Followers of Sulaiman ibn-Jarir al-Zaidi, They believed Imamat was a matter of conference and could be confirmed by two best Muslims. 3. Butriyah / Hurariyah They did not dispute the Khilafat of Uthman, neither they attack him nor praise him. 4. Yaqubiyya They accepted the Khilafat of Abu Bakr and Umar, but did not reject those who rejected these Khulafaa. They also believed that Muslim committers of Major sins will be in hell fire forever. 5. Hanafiyah Followers of the Imammate of Muhammad ibn-al-Hanifah. They believe that Allah might have had a beginning. 6. Karibiyah They believed that Imam Muhammad ibn-al-Hanifah is not dead and is the Imam Ghaib (in disappearance) and the expected Mahdi. 7. Kamiliyah Followers of abu-Kamil. They believed companions to be heretic because they forsook their allegiance to Ali and condemn Ali for ceasing to fight them. They believed in the returning of the dead before the Day of Resurrection and that Satan is right in preferring fire to clay. 8. Muhammadiyyah / Mughairiyah Followers of Muhammad ibn-'Abdullah ibn-al-Hassan. They do not believe that Imam Muhammad ibn-'Abdullah died and that he is Imam Ghaib and awaited Mahdi. 9. Baqiriyah Followers of Muhammad ibn-'Ali al-Baqir. They believe him to be the Imam Ghaib and expected Mahdi. 10. Nadisiyah They believe that those who consider themselves better than anyone else are Kafirs (disbelievers). 11. Sha'iyah They believe that the one who has recited La Ilaha Il-Allah (There is none worthy of worship except Allah), whatever she or he does, will never be punished. 12. Ammaliyah They believe that faith for one is what he/she sincerely practices. 13. Ismailiyah They believe in the continuity of Imammate among the descendants of Ismail ibn-Ja'far. 14. Musawiyah / Mamturah They believe Musa ibn-Ja'far to be the Imam Ghaib and expected Mahdi. 15. Mubarikiyah They believe in the continuity of Imammate among the descendants of Muhammad ibn-Ismail ibn-Ja'far. 16. Kathiyah / Ithn 'Ashariya (the Twelvers) They believe that expected Mahdi will be the twelveth Imam among the descendants of 'Ali ibn-abi-Talib. 17. Hashamiya / Taraqibiyah They Predicate a body to Allah and also allege Prophet (pbuh) of disobedience to Allah. 18. Zarariyah They believed that Allah did not live nor had any attributes till He created for Himself life and His attributes. 19. Younasiyah Followers of Younas ibn-'Abd-al-Rahman al-Kummi. They believe that Allah is borne by bearers of His Throne, though He is stronger than they. 20. Shaitaniyah / Shireekiyah They believed in the view that deeds of servants of Allah are substances; and a servant of Allah can really produce a substance. 21. Azraqiah Followers of Nafi ibn-al-Azraq. They do not believe in the good dreams and vision and claim that all forms of revelation has ended. 22. Najadat Followers of Najdah ibn-'Amir al-Hanafi. They abolished the punishment for drinking wine also they believed that sinners of this sect would not be treated in hellfire but some other place before allowed in paradise. 23. Sufriyah Followers of Ziyad ibn-al-Asfar. They believed that sinners are in fact polytheists. 24. Ajaridah Followers of Abd-al-Karim ibn-Ajrad. They believed that a child should be called to Islam after it has attained maturity. Also they believed booty of war to be unlawful till the owner is killed. 25. Khazimiyah They believe Allah loves men of all faiths even if one has been disbeliever most of his life. 26. Shuaibiyah / Hujjatiyah They believe that what Allah desires does happen no matter what and what does not happen it means Allah desires it not. 27. Khalafiyah Followers of Khalaf. They do not believe in fighting except under the leadership of an Imam. 28. Ma'lumiyah / Majhuliyah They believed that whoever did not recognize Allah by all His names was ignorant of Him and anyone ignorant of Him was a disbeliever. 29. Saltiyah Followers of Salt ibn-Uthman. They believed in the conversion of adults only and if father has converted to Islam children were considered disbeliever till they reach maturity. 30. Hamziyah Followers of Hamza ibn-Akrak. They believe that children of polythiests are condemned to hell. 31. Tha'libiyah Followers of Tha'labah ibn-Mashkan. They believe that parents remain guardian over their children of any age until children make it clear to parents that they are turnin
 
Quote    Reply

counterstrike    RE:Al Qaeda and the barbwire   11/30/2005 7:34:21 AM
>>Can anyone of you indiots dare to proof, Al-Qaeda is not an American Sponsord agency.<< lunacy! I think ISI kills pakistani soilders! does it?? then how can CIA kill american soilders. all of us belive al-qeada is islamic, now its you who must prove it is an AMerican agency! we don't want some idiotic reasonig called logic from you give us proof about there nexus!
 
Quote    Reply
1 2



 Latest
 News
 
 Most
 Read
 
 Most
 Commented
 Hot
 Topics