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Subject: Why Islam has sucide bombers
enlighten    11/9/2005 7:28:23 PM
Hope the following will convince every one that why terrorist belong to Islam Quranic verses (Translated by Maolana A. Yousuf Ali) that promises Heaven with Houris, Sex, and Wine for the pious Muslims: Quran-(52:17-20): “They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Huris (fair females) with wide lovely eyes.” “There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup, free from any Laghw….” Quran: (37:40-48): …they will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches. Quran: (44:51-55): Yes and we shall wed them to dark-eyed houris (beautiful virgins). Quran: (55:56-57): In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before. Then which of the favours of your Lord will you deny? Quran-(55:72): “Hur (beautiful, fair females) guarded in pavilions;” Quran: (78:31): “As for the righteous, they surely triumph. Their gardens and vineyards and high-bosomed (pointed breast) virgins for companions, truly overflowing cup” Quran-(78: 33-34):“And young full-breasted (mature) maidens of equal age, and a full cup of wine.” Quran-(55:57-58): “Then which of the blessings of your lord will you both (jinn and men) deny? (In beauty) they are like rubies and coral”. Quran-(56:7-40): “ …we created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand….” Quran-(55:70-77): “ In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair….dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man or Jinn have touched before…” Quran-56:22: “And (there will be) Huris with wide, lovely eyes (as wives for the pious)” Quran-(56: 35-36): “Verily , We have created them (maidens) of special creation. And made them Virgins.” Quran- (55:56): “Wherein both will be Qasirat-ut-Tarf (chaste females restraining their glances, desiring none except their husband) with whom no man or jinni has had tamth before them.” Quran: (2:25): “And give glad tidings to those who believe and do righteous good deeds, that for them will be Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise)……….and they will be given these things in resemblance (i.e., in the same form but different in taste) and they shall have therein Azwajun Muhtahharatun (purified mates and wives) and that they will have abide therein forever”. Quran:(47:15): “The description of Paradise which the Muttaqun have been promised (is that) in it are rivers of water the taste and smell of which are not changed, rivers of milk of which the taste never changes, rivers of wine delicious to those who drink, and rivers of clarified honey……….” Quran-(40-45): "Surely for the God-fearing awaits a place of security gardens and vineyards and maidens with swelling (protruding) bosoms." Now some sahi Hadiths: The main themes of the Jihad are: if Jihadi Muslims survive the battle, they secure concubines and plenty of booty, but if they fall (die), they are sure to enter paradise full of houris, wine and living in the most luxurious environment. TIRMZI, vol. 2 states on page 138: Every man who enters paradise shall be given 72 (seventy-two) houris; no matter at what age he had died, when he is admitted into paradise, he will become a thirty-year-old, and shall not age any further. A man in paradise shall be given virility equal to that of one hundred men. Ghilman (Young Boys): In sura: (52:24) Allah promises to supply young diamond-sparkling beautiful boys for some inhabitants of Islamic heavens. Some deceitful western living mullahs will argue that these boys are there to serve drinks to the pious inhabitants of the heavens and not for having sex by those Beduin homosexual Jihadi Martyrs. They also will argue that Koran did not specify that these Ghilman (young boys) will be used as sex partners by Martyrs, i.e., it was not said so in the Quran. Well, Koran also did not specify what those Martyrs/pious Muslims suppose to do with the wide-eyed, firmed, swollen breast, white skinned beautiful houris! Your parent gets you married a beautiful young lady, and parents never say what you suppose to do with your wife, do they? Decietful Mullah’s logic/excuse that these Ghilman could be there as the waiters just to serve drinks and food does not sound right. I don’t think it is the purpose of supplying young boys just to be the waiters. Waiters could be adult person instead of pearl-sparkling everlasting young boys! Is not it folks? Quranic verses (Translated by Maolana A. Yousuf Ali) that promises Heaven with Houris, Sex, and Wine for the pious Muslims: Quran-(52:17-20): “They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Huris (fair females) with wide lovely eyes.” “There they shall pass from hand to hand a (wine) cup, free from any Laghw….” Quran: (37:40-48): …they will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of
 
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eatmee    RE:Why Islam has sucide bombers   11/9/2005 8:53:44 PM
and they say that thier religion has no sin?
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Why Islam has sucide bombers   11/18/2005 1:12:38 AM
The problem lies with the Koran and the man they call a messenger of God! Mohammad killed a 120 year old man who spoke against Mohammad... A 120 yr old man.....This is Islam ..Period...
 
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eatmee    RE:Why Islam has sucide bombers   11/18/2005 7:21:51 PM
yes a 120 year old man?? The old man must have told mad mo to stop being such an asshole, being 120 i should think he was kind of wise being that age. Sounds like mohammed didddent like the sound of any opposition or reason. yep it doesnt surprise me
 
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trustedsourceofinfo    RE:Why Islam has sucide bombers   11/22/2005 3:39:49 AM
Any Pakis want more proof of their beloved prophet.. MUHAMMAD AND THE MURDER OF ABU AFAK by Silas INTRODUCTION After Muhammad arrived in Medina around 622 AD, a number of local people began to dislike him. Many of them were Jews, some were Pagan Arabs. One by one, Muhammad's critics were silenced; some became Muslims, some were murdered, others were driven out of Medina. This article deals with Muhammad's request to have his men murder a Jewish man named Abu Afak. Abu Afak was 120 years old. What was Afak's crime? He had urged his fellow Medinans to doubt Muhammad. http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:cAOIs1OrehQJ:answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/abu-afak.htm+prophet+120+year+old+man&hl=en&client=firefox-a
 
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adittya    WRONG! (well, mostly)   3/24/2007 1:57:06 AM
omg.. that was so wrong

To all those people who think this is correct

i am studying western religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) for my Humanities class and i found out that the word "Hur" is used to describe the virgins with black irises and pure white scleras (white part of the eye). Arabic was still developing when the Quran was written and some Aramaic (Jesus's spoken language) was used. in aramaic, Hur meant white, usually in the context of white grapes (commonly used for wine). The white grapes signify the fruits of success, happiness and all that. Heaven was meant to be filled with clean food (which was figuratively described using fruits) that anyone could eat and enjoy without worry.
Most scholars agree that Hur was actually meant to use Grapes figuratively and not Virgin women.
see:
http://ko.offroadpakistan.com/religion/2004_08/quran_may_promise_grapes_not_virgins.html
http://www.muslim.org/islam/hur.htm

To all those people who think the article proved that Islam is not pure of sin

Sin: anything done that is morally wrong. all three western religions say that sex with someone who is not married to you is a sin. sex with someone who is married to you is defenitely not a sin. In genesis all the people that could have possibly be mentioned were said to have "known"(had sex with) their wifes and conceived someone. So if sex was a sin, then every single Jew or Cristian is a sinner for respecting the people of Genesis, who are all sinners. Even if "Hur" meant virgin women, in the case of the quotings from the Quran, the Hur are "given to" to the people. In aramaic and other languages, "given to" also meant given in marriage. so what they are promised to do in heaven is all legal and not sin.
As for the 120 year old man, he was pagan. we are talking about the time around 700 BC, where not many people were educated and he might not have been much of a wise guy. That pagan dude might have accused mohammad or done something he didnt like. If you think what mohammad did was bad, well guess what, no one cares! he was one guy. if he was god (like Jesus) he would have constantly fought the continuous criticism, because in the end, the critics always lose. But he was a man, and cannot avoid sin. Man does sin sometime in his life. If you look at what Moses did you will know what i mean. After moses came down from Mt. Sinai after a discourse from god, he found many people worshipping their old gods again. This angered him and he sent the "Sons of Levi", who were faithful, to kill every single one who followed their old gods. Isnt that wrong? why dont we go around and say Judaism and Christianity is bad because they respect Moses? no man is pure. Let anyone say mohammad is pure, he is not. God is the only one who is pure. period.

The real reason why there are many suicide bombers in Islam

There are people who "follow" religion and people who "understand" religion. people who "follow" religion, look at the rules of their religion and say, "this is what god told us and so this is correct and i should follow it word for word". The same thing applies to people who look at and evaluate religion. they look at the rules and stuff and nothing else and say "this is what god supposedly told them and this is absolutely wrong". Then again, there are people who "understand" religion. These are the people who truly follow the religion, because they dont look at rules and say the same crap, but they look at them and say "This is what god told us, but this is what he means: to look at everyone equally, to love them and to respect them". All religions were made at ancient times where people were not educated and good thinkers. That is why there are many rules in a religion. In fact, no matter what major and legal religion you can think of (not crap like scientology) they all really focus on the same thing: To look at everyone equally, to love them and to respect them. By love i dont mean date and make out with them, but i mean care for and consider.
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scuttlebut steve       3/24/2007 8:02:34 AM
My view of islam will improve when the bulk of the islamic world has the balls or human decency to publicly denounce the practice of suicide bombings, let alone religious motivated executions, and a host of other violent acts that the muslim world seems to treat as acceptable acts.
 
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adittya    Re to scuttlebut steve   4/12/2007 6:57:14 AM
you dont need much change in the islamic world to have a good view of it. You have probably never seen a muslim person for real life. you probably have seen things on TV or news or wateva and said that that is how people are in iraq. Tell ya wat.

All americans are fags because:
They have Bush as president, who is an attention seeking oil rich asshole
Guns are legal and many people have atleast one
They have a [***] load of gangsters

Doesn't that seem like a generalization? i dont mean the above, it is just an example (i think most american people are great), but that is the way you are looking at iraq and Islam. Even in the newspaper and all, people in iraq complain that the only thing missing since saddam hussein was thrown off is safety - he could control those terrorists who make up some 15% of the population (about the terrorists, see my article above). So wat i am saying is, people didnt want saddam hussein, they didnt want terrorists, they didnt want public executions and they didnt want suicide bombings either but the terrorists are who get attention from americans and not the people. If you do look at the people and not the terrorists, you will get a good view of islam.

The same thing is in afghanistan and all. They are being generalized. They are good nations, but their leaders and representatives are assholes.

another thing. Even if iraq, iran and afghanistan are full of assholes, that is not the majority of Islam
 
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adittya       4/13/2007 6:30:10 AM
i hope u people are getting my point..
i am not trying to convert people to islam or any crap like that
i am just saying ALL people in islam are not idiots and i get the impression that ALL people responding to the main article think so. I had like 15 Islamic friends, 20 Christian friends and (a few hundred) friends of other religions and i really think most people are generally nice. Just those that dont get the point of all things they learn, i mean like the people who take things literally (like the huris and all that), are assholes and for gods sake i am glad bush is bombing them. Thats like the only thing i think he is doing right
 
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