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Subject: PAKISTAN' FAR MORE CAPABLE THAN INDIA (Latest Report)
Indian cadet    11/1/2005 4:57:59 PM
Pakistan nukes outstrip India’s, officials say U.S. reverses assessment of South Asia nuclear balance By Robert Windrem and Tammy Kupperman NBC News Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal is vastly superior to that of rival India, with up to five times the nuclear warheads, say U.S. military and intelligence officials now reassessing the South Asian balance of power. Interviews with senior U.S. officials in the past week revealed the view that Pakistan not only has more warheads than its longtime adversary, but has far more capability to actually use them. NUCLEAR WEAPONS TESTS by India and Pakistan in May 1998 caught American intelligence off guard. While U.S. agencies long had known about weapons-development research in both countries, the decision by both to go public with their capabilities shocked policymakers. Since then, U.S. intelligence and diplomacy has focused on South Asia with a new intensity. Until recently, for instance, Pakistan was considered to have somewhere between 10 and 15 nuclear weapons and India between 25 and 100. But after two years of intelligence gathering, officials now believe those figures overstate the capabilities of India’s home-grown arsenal and understate those of Pakistan, whose program has relied on generous Chinese assistance. One official said the Pakistanis “are more likely to have those numbers [25 to 100 weapons] than the Indians.” Perhaps most important, the official said, is that Pakistan appears far more capable than India of delivering nuclear payloads. “I don’t think their [the Indian] program is as advanced as the Paks,” the official said, speaking particularly of ballistic missiles. Marine Corps Gen. Anthony Zinni, commander of the U.S. Central Command, said longtime assumptions that India had an edge in the South Asian strategic balance of power were questionable, at best. “Don’t assume that the Pakistani nuclear capability is inferior to the Indians,” said Zinni, the senior U.S. officer responsible for the Middle East and South Asia. Other military and intelligence officials, as well as an intelligence analysis of South Asia’s nuclear balance obtained by NBC News, shed more light on the revised view. NBC News is the broadcast partner of the MSNBC.com joint venture. said one senior military official. “Pakistan’s may be better than India’s, with more weapons and more capability. “You can’t underestimate the Pakistani program,” said the official. Like most of the officials NBC News contacted, this one would speak only on condition of anonymity. These officials believe India understands that it is behind. A recent Defense Department analysis of the Indian program obtained by MSNBC.com states that India is moving to address its shortcomings. The U.S. report also states that “India probably has a handful of nuclear bombs,” meaning about five. With regard to delivery systems - the missiles and bombers needed to launch a nuclear strike - U.S. officials now believe Indian capabilities to be seriously lagging. According to the Defense Department document, which is unclassified, India has no nuclear-capable missiles and fewer aircraft capable of delivering a nuclear payload than Pakistan does. A U.S. official stated that Pakistani air and missile delivery systems are now believed to be “fully capable of a nuclear exchange if something happens.” Other officials noted that Pakistan’s air force, with its U.S. F-16’s and its French Mirage fighter-bombers, are superior at penetrating enemy airspace than India’s Soviet-designed MiGs and Sukhois. Most importantly, Pakistan is now thought to possess about 30 nuclear-capable missiles: the Chinese M-11 short-range missile and its Pakistani variant, the Tarmuk, as well as the North Korean Nodong intermediate-range missile (known locally as the Ghauri). The mystery that shrouds both of these growing nuclear arsenals has become a major cause for concern among U.S. policymakers, who even before the 1998 tests had deemed South Asia the most likely site of a nuclear war. According to one analysis done by the U.S. Air Force, more than 150 million Indians and Pakistanis could perish in an all-out nuclear exchange - three times the total number of people who died in World War II. One frequently cited fear among U.S. intelligence officials is an accidental nuclear war in which Pakistan mistakes the firing of an Indian missile bearing a conventional warhead as a nuclear strike. Despite what appears to be a healthy fear of the other on both sides, the United States still fears there could be a series of crises that lead to something worse. Last year’s Pakistani incursion in the Kargil area of Kashmir, the disputed Muslim territory controlled by India, is a good example of the region’s unpredictability. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3340687/
 
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TopGun       9/30/2006 8:33:42 PM

A very interesting article indeed, one that again re-inforces how important it is not write off Pakistan as it continually shows how capable and dynamic it truly is.  This important Muslim ally of the US and the west should be taken seriously and given due processess instead of the constant critism which I fear, will eventually turn-off this importan nation, polls show that the people of Pakistan already are,  and force it to look elsewhere for friends.  Something I fear would be the biggest mistake of any US administration and the West(mainly European nations) who will lose an important ally in that part of the world and regional power of Asia.  But first of alll...................

 

Jawan & other ignorant racist geeks, u sound like a complete moron, u shouldnt be allowed to even speak because ur IQ is less than a monkeys( as I know ur kind worship monkeys! so thats quite pitiful). U should get lost and leave this strategypage forum with all your pathetic, Pakistan bashing,  ignorant racist comments which u post. funny that u should post racist comments when in general indians suffer much racism in the world. Go to school and learn how to talk and discuss.  Anyhow,

 

Pakistan's nuclear program is more advanced due to the fact that its been using an advanced metallurgical centrifuge based on an enhanced prototype developed in the late 70's in Europe from the onset of its push to develop nuclear weopons.  The irony is that, though indiya have been developing nuclear weopons for decades longer than Pakistanis, there programs, like many others(tanks, aircraft, subs etc...), have always suffered serious set-backs and problems something which is a recurring phenomenon with India's bellicose development programs.  Infact, in March of 1992, several Indian agents where caught trying to acquire nuclear technology from a contact in South Africa.  The irony is that the contact was an associate of Abdul Qadeer Khan of Pakistan!.  I find it funny that despite their larger population, resources and pool of scientist, India, which foolishly started this nuclear arms race in Suuth Asia in the 70's has had to resort to such desperate tactics and has such a poor record vis-a-vis its development program.  This bodes very poorly for a country its size. 

 

Kudoos to Pakistan, for having developed such a capability at a fraction of the cost, and in 1/4 the time period not mention a more effective system and interestingly, all done while it was under the most severest of sanctions(Glenn, Pressler etc...) and severe international scrutiny many of which where crippling to the economy and nation as a whole.  But they never let go of their resolve, call them what u want as many people(mostly indians) do in a racist manner, but the fact of the matter is that Pakistan has always managed to surprise everyone and prove itself to be a dynamic nation despite its limited resources. The Pakistani weopons system are also known to be highly developed on several delivery platforms, and miniaturized.  Recently, reports are coming out(I'll post the link when I get the chance) that Pakistan is moving towards the Neutron bombs.  IMO, India has bitten off more than it can chew,  Pakistanis have consistently proven themselves to be a resilient and a capable people.  A sort of David versus Goliath situation with David comming out on top!

 



Nice....
 
love the analogy, i agree I think that Pakistan is an important country for US. It is vital that we show her our support and help it develop into a stable 'n strong democracy.  It has been a steadfast US friend since the 50's and as such is deserving our help and support.
 
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