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Subject: Pushing Pak into civil war
Necromancer    12/27/2008 8:25:04 AM
the only alternative to major wr/?????
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FJV       12/27/2008 9:00:14 AM
Bad idea.

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WarNerd       12/28/2008 5:53:15 AM
I agree that it is a pushing Pakistan into a civil war is a bad idea, but we seen to be running out of options.
As I see it we are dealing with a pack of politicians that are unwilling to take any action that would alienate a potential constituency.  In that kind of situation no action can take place until a majority of  the politicians involved feel that the cost is inaction is unacceptable (i.e. they will be thrown out of office and probably into jail).
Wee have tried appealing to their self interest, to their national interest, and to their pride.  We have tried bribes disguised as foreign aid.  Maybe it's time to back them into a corner and invoke their survival instincts.
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Charles99       2/27/2009 6:36:57 AM
We may not have to "Push" Pakistan into anything-- the Taliban have essentially won in Swat, with a defacto governmental surrender (I'm certain those who stuck their necks out, like every family that wants their girls to be educated are quite aware of just how badly they've been betrayed by their "leaders") and just in the last two days, the corrupt leaders have launched a small scale coup against a far more popular (but also corrupt) political party that is in the process of plunging one of hte most heavily populated parts of Pakistan into chaos. 
  I think, rather the question shoujld be: What do we, not just the US, but India and China do if Pakistan collapses? It's not going to be good for us, or the other big boys in teh region, but we should probably be giving though on how to retrieve this disaster before it becomes complete.

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