In 1814 France was heap'um tired of war.  Invalids, old men and boys, previous deferrals were being called up.  More and more refractoires were evading conscription.  Things suddenly started happening fast and Nappy abdicated with no less than Marshal Ney saying he should be brought to Paris in chains.  At that point the French were tired of suffering and dying for the man.  The war had come home.

Regrettably the Bourbons were no slouches at wearing out their welcome.  The Congress of Vienna almost led to a new war amongst the victors.  It was like they were begging Boney to come back and kick all their asses.  Nine months later he did.

(And of course in 1848 Napoleon Bonaparte was back again!  Nappy III that is.)

France been a little off the rails ever since...

No, I think Bonaparte in a reasonably upholstered cell in the Bastille or the Conciergerie or the Temple or Vincennes or even Bitche would have been okay with everyone; and he would have been easier to keep an eye on.  But given the Bourbon excesses, and absence making the heart grow fonder and all, the safe thing IMHO were to quietly snuff him. 

Not a first for the House of Bourbon by any means.  Slow poison, I should have suggested; the old general fading away.  It seems they learned that lesson at St. Helena, though recently I read that the arsenic findings are now in dispute afresh.

I think the 100 days shows that they had not lost all the enthusiasm..... and consider the plight of poor Austria and Russia who had born the brunt of the war and had their own troubles at home to deal with.. Britain had the US trying to take Canada... the only power pushing for more against France was Prussia and they could not do it alone. the major allies were just as tired as France and didn't have republican feaver to call on ridiculous manpower levels... (excpet Russia of course but they and Austria had Ottomans to worry about (Ottomans were not great for sure but certainly a threat to a power with the bulk and best of their amires fighting a 1000 miles away...)

 

Paul

Absolutely not! Some of the brightest minds (Einstein for example), professed a belief in religion. It has been my own personal experience though that using religion in place of logic signals the end of any further debate on the topic at hand.

to answer top one..... not necessarily... depends on which religions.....  :-)

but some religions do rely on limited/poor/false education for their benefit though.

science tends to oppose the traditional religions because it doesn't take for granted and always seeks to prove rather than rely on faith. religions tend to oppose science as more understanding can contradict what a religion holds as dogma.

not really gone into Einstein on religion but from what I have read he was not exactly a supporter of Abrahamic faiths version of God as displayed in the relevent books?

Way to step up to the plate Tony! I admire you persistence. If you are going to be a fool, be the best fool possible.

   Actually i brought Jesus up in this discussion only because Ehran says his Queen is royal because millions say so!

 

   Jesus is relevant to this because billions call him so as well,all i did was asked a simple question if Jesus ever called himself such? Bob answered, but no one else did. And despite the fact that nobody seems to get this, there is a point behind it.

 

  I have nothing against science,my point of the above is that if we play GOD, and defeat death, how can we reach him? Now i only say this because in my faith we have a soul,and if you have a soul it needs to be released to GOD,or if you believe the story, Satan. So tell me how a soul can

I myself will be gone for a week, looking after my sick grandma.  You could pray for her swift recovery (she's off the ventilator, but still weak) if you want, but I wouldn't waste my time on this topic anymore. 


(Well, I did zap Ehran with Elba, now I can die happy.  OK then...PS  Ehran, manful to admit.  Kudos ;>)

hope your grandma does well nichevo.

glad to bring a bit of joy to your life nichevo.  i'd thought elba was st helena with more staff and better climate.  still no day is a waste if you learn something new even if it tastes a bit avian going down .  i am still boggling over elba actually. 

 the hawaiians were talking about an alliance with the british but i've only seen that in one place so who knows.

I liked your answer.  Interestingly I was reading about a month ago that religious affiliation and high intelligence are positively corrolated which I would have thought on intuition to be false. 

Although not widely reported, it might be worth noting that the last Pope declared that he believed that evolution may be theoretically correct and said something along the lines of "God cannot contradict God."  In other words science, which the Christian faith believes to be a language of God, cannot be contradicted by the Church's teachings and if it does then those teachings are likely to be tainted by man's false interpretation.

 

Einstein stated that the religion that he felt most closely followed his own beliefs was that of Buddhism, not any of the Abrahamic faiths.  Although Einstein was particularly intelligent, that intelligence was focussed and unusual owing to an abnormality in his brain.  The man couldn't tie his own shoelaces apparently. He's not the best sample for testing the hypothesis of religious belief and intelligence.

I still fail to see what you bringing up religion has to do with AWI or W1812... neither was fought because of religion. they were political and any mention of religion was an aside.

 

and I don't see why you keep going on about current royalty... that is not really relevent to the point of the thread either.

 

open a new topic for a new subject.

 

I still fail to see what you bringing up religion has to do with AWI or W1812... neither was fought because of religion. they were political and any mention of religion was an aside.

 

and I don't see why you keep going on about current royalty... that is not really relevent to the point of the thread either.

 

open a new topic for a new subject.

 

Paul, i did not want to answer, but since you dont see, i will. And it will be just one item.

   1} US DOLLAR BILL

 

  And i apologize for opening the worm can,but Paul broke it 1st!.

 

                                                                           tigertony