"Oh and btw, Napoleon surrendered, but if England had tried to occupy and hold French ground or Paris they would have freed him from Elba again!. So since France is still French "You won nothing!". "

 

And Britiain is still Britain, so we can hold the same argument against the French.

 

The fact is the Britain WON the Napoleonic Wars and France and America LOST the Napoleonic Wars. 

 

Modern day Americans should be ashamed that their country was allied to the 19th Century equivalent of Hitler who, like Hitler, wanted to overrun Europe.  And most of Europe is grateful that the British defeated the French and their American allies in the name of freedom.

And you see what happens when the British are actually interested in a fight?

 

We weren't interested in our North Americans colonies.  Whilst the North Americans colonies were revolting the British also had the irritant of a short Frenchman trying to invade us and the rest of Europe.  We concentrated on Napoleon (and his American allies) and not the American colonies.  So we lost the American colonies whilst winning our, and Europe's, freedom at the same time. 

No Adam, the UK is not a nation-state, at least not using the correct meaning of the term.  A State is a bordered area of land, with a soverign government.  A Nation is a peoples with a common culture, religion, or other binding factor.
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In that case the UK is a nation state.  In terms of religion and culture the UK is more of a nation state than the US is.

 

But I stand by my argument that Britain is a nation-state, as are most countries.

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The British (and their Canadian allies) were the good guys in the War of 1812.  The Americans were the bad guys.  Why?  The war was really a part of the Napoleonic Wars (which Britain won) and came about because the British wanted to stop the flow of trade from America to its ally France whilst France was trying to conquer Europe.  The equivalent in a slightly alternative 20th Century would have been the British fighting the Americans to stop American trade to Nazi Germany.  By fighting the US in the War of 1812 Britain was trying to throw a spanner in the works of Napoleon's attempt to conquer Europe.

 

I'm afraid America was in the wrong in that war.

 

Also, one of the things that America declared war on Britain for was this: anger at British military support for Native Americans defending their tribal lands from encroaching American settlers.

 

So just WHO was in the right in this war?

" You give far too much credit to Wellington, since Napoleon lost because of his own incompetance at Waterloo!. I love how you have such high praise for Wellington while ignoring the real reason he won!. "

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Yeah.  Just like the Americans give too much credit to George Washington, and we all know how much of an incompetent general he really was.

 

 

"And as for my Irish kin? Well i would suggest you and the UK should apologize to them for all those centuries of death and starvation you gave them to maintain empire!."

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Only if the Irish apologise for fighting the British in 1916 in the Easter Rising and therefore making the British call out the army (and remember that in 1916 the whole of Ireland was a part of Britain) whilst the British Army also had the important task of fighting Germany in the Great War that just happened to be occuring at that time (the Irish are so dumb that they decide to pick a fight against mainland Britain whilst 4 million of our troops are fighting) and for Ireland supporting the Nazis in WWII - it's a well known fact that the first Irish President wanted to be rid of all Jews out of Ireland in WWII and that Ireland was the only country in the world, apart from Japan, to open a book of condolences when Hitler died.

 

So if you Irish apologise for all then, then we might apologise for any fantasy crimes you may have think Britain had committed.

Great Britain could never have realized their economic value had they not dealt in slaves. The growth of the British economy from 1688 to 1802  depended on the slave profits"