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Subject: A serious thread concerning the aftermath of the Iranian waters saga
Yimmy    4/8/2007 2:10:02 PM
What action do you think will now be taken, if any? Will Royal Naval procedure change at all in the short or long term? Will our behaviour towards Iran change at all? Will the instance be put to the government as reason to raise funding to the Royal Navy for equipment which could have helped in this instance? Any thoughts?
 
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Yimmy       5/14/2007 4:27:50 PM

Well, if you ignore all the executions, setting on fire and witch-hunts, then I suppose it would be a bit pathetic.


But the Church couldn't execute anyone without monarch permission.  I don't know what date that came in, but it was very much a law. 
 
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sofa    It's impossible to desribe a sunset to a blind man   5/16/2007 6:25:56 PM
Herald, Pseudo -
Good luck talking to ostriches. Their suicidal death wish (empower your enemy) makes them enablers of Iran, itself an enabler of terrorism. (refer to Canada example above.) Enablers of terrorism naturally belong in the target set. 
 
Currently what's left of "the west" (USA, AUS, Poland, a few others) has a military advantage, but the margins are closing. Sooner is to our advantage. Delay is what islamists seek, and what the Enablers are also working toward. Matching objectives. Making them allies to another. Making them all targets, together.
 
The Enablers may read the koran, but then pretend they don't know what it's about. Islam must overcome everything or destroy it. Therefore, eventually, the culling is inevitable, one way or the other, as long as someone refuses to be subjugated. Serious action sooner allows gutting islam with 10's thousands killed. Once Iran and Saudi have nukes, then 100 million, and not sure which way it would go. (Their complete lunacy allows them to destroy utterly our way of life, civilization, and most of our populace. Then we can respond in kind. Why would we let it come to that?) 
 
Situation is analogous to giving petty criminals in town automatic weapons while we disarm the local populace. (Wait, many countries are doing that!?)  Except these are facist dictators who promise to destroy us and our friends, have done great violnec to us in the recent past and contuinue to escalate the violence. Why would we stand by and let them become more capable? Are we that stupid? Well some of you are.
 
By not gutting islam today, and by enabling acquisition of nuclear ICBMs, we enable nuclear exchange in the next 30 years. I'd prefer it be serious pounding now, with 1/1000th the deaths, and with US imposing our culture onto the barbarians. But if the enablers get their way, then it's 100 million when the time comes... But I'm not sure we survive that exchange.
 
Nuclear ICBMs make "isolationism" just plain suicidally stupid.  
 
Islam doesn't change. We either fight or switch. Sooner or later.
Talking to enablers who have already "bent over to receive islam" is unproductive.
Time is better spent providing efficient culling mechanisms to DOD, for when we positively absolutely need to cull the herd. I've been doing the good work, working overtime. I hope each of you has also.
 
 "Let's Roll"
 
 
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