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Subject: Bunch of Pussies!!
NotUkOnly    4/7/2007 4:25:44 PM
Hey Im British and Im ashamed to admit that!! After this Iranian situation and the way the Rn & Marines admitted they were in Iranian waters even though we know they werent and the way the just gave in makes me feel that we have now have a bunch of Pussies in our Amed Forces The French would be proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Heorot       4/17/2007 2:18:39 PM

People who have never been in a similar situation passing judgement on men and a woman.  They were out of supporting distance of their ship and it was shear suicide to resist. 

 

To resist would not have been courageous but in fact foolhardy, and any officer who would have needlessly gotten his sailors and Marines killed for no good should be court martialed.  This is not a case of holding a position at all costs. 

Albany!, a voice of reason at last from an American poster. But what I would expect from someone who's been there, done that! Unlike the assortment of rednecks that have posted before.



 
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Herc the Merc       4/17/2007 2:45:03 PM
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The row over maritime boundaries in the Shatt-al-Arab between Iran and Britain seems to be over, with the British sailors and marines released and returned home. I continue to suspect a deal was made regarding the five Iranian Revolutionary Guard officers held by the United States in Iraq. If they go home in a few weeks or months, it will be a quid pro quo, regardless of how much Washington and London deny it.

For Britain, and especially for the Royal Navy and Royal Marines, the incident ended in utter disgrace. The initial surrender of the British boarding party to what appears to have been a much larger Iranian force is the only defensible British action in the whole sorry business. Even in Horatio Hornblower's Royal Navy, a British frigate captain was not disgraced if he struck to a French or Spanish ship of the line. Force majeure remains a valid excuse.

But everything else that was said or done would have given Hornblower, the fictional creation of novelist C.S. Forester, or Jack Aubrey, the captain created by Patrick O'Brien, an apoplexy. The failure of HMS Cornwall to foresee such an event and be in a position to protect her people; the cowardice -- there is no other word for it -- of the boarding party, including two officers, once captured; their kissing the Iranian's backsides in return for their release; and perhaps most un-British, their selling their disgraceful stories to the British press for money on their return -- all this departs from Royal Navy traditions in ways that would have appalled the tars who fought at Trafalgar

 
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Herc the Merc       4/17/2007 2:59:24 PM
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The command of HMS Cornwall failed to foresee that it's boarding party might encounter trouble.
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The row over maritime boundaries in the Shatt-al-Arab between Iran and Britain seems to be over, with the British sailors and marines released and returned home. I continue to suspect a deal was made regarding the five Iranian Revolutionary Guard officers held by the United States in Iraq. If they go home in a few weeks or months, it will be a quid pro quo, regardless of how much Washington and London deny it.

For Britain, and especially for the Royal Navy and Royal Marines, the incident ended in utter disgrace. The initial surrender of the British boarding party to what appears to have been a much larger Iranian force is the only defensible British action in the whole sorry business. Even in Horatio Hornblower's Royal Navy, a British frigate captain was not disgraced if he struck to a French or Spanish ship of the line. Force majeure remains a valid excuse.

But everything else that was said or done would have given Hornblower, the fictional creation of novelist C.S. Forester, or Jack Aubrey, the captain created by Patrick O'Brien, an apoplexy. The failure of HMS Cornwall to foresee such an event and be in a position to protect her people; the cowardice -- there is no other word for it -- of the boarding party, including two officers, once captured; their kissing the Iranian's backsides in return for their release; and perhaps most un-British, their selling their disgraceful stories to the British press for money on their return -- all this departs from Royal Navy traditions in ways that would have appalled the tars who fought at Trafalgar

 
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