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Subject: Government says Britain would nuke rogue state if needed
AdamB    2/7/2007 1:37:59 PM
BRITAIN'S NUKE TERROR VOW The Sun By George Pascoe, Political Editor Britain would launch a nuclear strike on a rogue state to sink a terror plot, ministers confirmed last night. Defence Secretary Des Browne said Britain would blast a state-backed terror campaign with Trident nukes. He insisted Tony Blair and defence chiefs would NOT hesitate to use our arsenal of nuclear warheads to protect our "vital" interests. Lawless states sending suicide bombers armed with nuclear "dirty bombs" or planning germ warfare attacks would be hit. Mr Browne told MPs: "This is designed to address the strategic threat posed posed by states possessing nuclear weapons using a delivery mechanism that employs terrorism." He refused to spell out when and where nukes would be used to ensure the element of surprise. Mr Browne told the Defence Committee: "Keeping them guessing to a degree and keeping a degree of ambiguity is all part of deterrence." The Defence Secretary was being grilled about plans to replace ageing Trident weapons systems. The PM wants a £20 billion new system to protect the UK until 2050. Britain's nuclear armoury was built to see off the threat of Communism before the Soviet Union collapsed. Critics say there is no need to replace Trident missiles and their submarines. But Mr Browne warned that terrorists armed with nuclear waste or biological weapons pose the biggest threat to UK security in the coming years. thesun.co.uk
 
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Herc the Merc       2/7/2007 2:41:08 PM
Chirac also said the samething--why do governments threaten like that?? And could he define rogue state??
 
AdamB could u list the "rogue" states Mr. Browne had in mind. North Korea obviously is on top of the list.
 
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Yimmy       2/7/2007 3:26:15 PM

Chirac also said the samething--why do governments threaten like that?? And could he define rogue state??


 
Now that the Cold War is over, and our enemies are not so clever, I think a little reminder of our deterrent to be not such a bad thing.
 
If countries such as Pakistan believe we will nuke them back to the stone age if terrorists of Pakistani origin set off a devestating terror attack in the UK, they are likely to try far harder to prevent such an attack.  Perhaps not a great example, but I think that to be the basic statement given.
 
 
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Herc the Merc       2/7/2007 4:36:05 PM




Chirac also said the samething--why do governments threaten like that?? And could he define rogue state??




 


Now that the Cold War is over, and our enemies are not so clever, I think a little reminder of our deterrent to be not such a bad thing.

 

If countries such as Pakistan believe we will nuke them back to the stone age if terrorists of Pakistani origin set off a devestating terror attack in the UK, they are likely to try far harder to prevent such an attack.  Perhaps not a great example, but I think that to be the basic statement given.

 


They are already doing that -meanwhile Blair attacked Iraq--u think a geographical error?? Also if u threaten a state like Pak with nukes, wouldn't Pak be better of nuking UK first. Why bother with this germ warfare and hide. Drop the big one!!-- These threats of retaliation make no sense?
 
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Yimmy       2/7/2007 5:16:15 PM
Actually Herc, I was thinking that you make no sense.
 
 
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Herc the Merc    Yea Yimmy agree   2/7/2007 5:25:12 PM

Actually Herc, I was thinking that you make no sense.

 



lets drop this one. dumb debate.
 
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Herc the Merc    Yimmy something very surprising   2/7/2007 8:40:43 PM
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Considering Chirac and Brown droppin hints of using nuclear weapons if that and that happens--u r now profiled to create more problems with nukes than solve them--next likely nuclear terrorists is profiled to be a man of the Western civilization. Surprised--fineline sometimes in using WMD . And its not my analysis. Read the link.
 
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Yimmy       2/7/2007 9:42:59 PM
I think actually using a nuclear weapon would be a huge mistake, and I hope Brown doesn't think he can use these vocal warnings as a means of testing the watr for an actual limited strike.
 
Simply reminding people of our deterrent is different.  There is no point our paying to maintain it if we let people forget about it.
 
 
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interestedamateur       2/8/2007 7:39:47 AM


If countries such as Pakistan believe we will nuke them back to the stone age if terrorists of Pakistani origin set off a devestating terror attack in the UK, they are likely to try far harder to prevent such an attack.  Perhaps not a great example, but I think that to be the basic statement given.
Interesting comment Yimmy. Bearing in mind that Britain has harboured many of the world's terror groups (depending upon whether you see them as "freedom fighters" of course), does that mean that other countries have the right to nuke us?
 
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flamingknives       2/8/2007 1:48:13 PM
Do other countries have the 'right' to nuke the UK?
Probably. 

But only if they don't mind being nuked back, which kind of rules it out for a disproportionate response.
 
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Yimmy       2/8/2007 3:39:00 PM

Do other countries have the 'right' to nuke the UK?
Probably. 

But only if they don't mind being nuked back, which kind of rules it out for a disproportionate response.

My thoughts exactly.

And so nobody wants to be nuked, and everybody keeps their house / terrorists in order.

 
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