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Subject: Nimrod Crash
AussieEngineer    9/3/2006 4:39:26 AM
The British military is investigating its blackest day in the war on terror after 14 troops died in a plane crash in Afghanistan, prompting renewed questions about the mission there. The Royal Air Force Nimrod MR2 reconnaissance plane, on a NATO mission, came down in Kandahar province in southern Afghanistan on Saturday (local time) due to a technical problem, a NATO spokesman said in Kabul, stressing that it was not shot down. The crash caused the biggest single loss of British troops in Afghanistan or Iraq since the US-led war on terror was launched in November 2001. Twelve RAF personnel, a Royal Marine and a British Army soldier were killed. The incident brings the number of British armed forces personnel deaths in Afghanistan since the start of operations against the hardline Taliban regime in 2001 to 36, including 15 in combat. Six soldiers were killed last month alone and the steadily rising death toll has left some wondering how much longer Britain can tolerate such losses. Rejecting suggestions that it was "mission impossible", Defence Secretary Des Browne said in a television interview that people needed to understand why British troops were in the country at all. "We're there in context of United Nations resolution," he said. "I know that the south (of Afghanistan) is a very difficult and dangerous place and our own experience there has suggested that." However, "the developed world cannot afford for Afghanistan to become a training ground for terrorists again," he said. Mr Browne added: "We have secured the site and the investigation has begun. "The indications, both before the crash and since, suggest that this has been a dreadful, tragic accident." Prime Minister Tony Blair said the crash was a "tragedy" which would "distress the whole country". "British forces are engaged in a vital mission in Afghanistan and this terrible event starkly reminds us of the risk that they face daily," he said. Britain has nearly 4,000 troops in Helmand as part of a NATO-led force working to bring security to the restive southern province in order to allow reconstruction work to take place. With 7,200 British troops also in Iraq, accusations - denied by the government and military top brass - have mounted in recent months that troops are over-stretched and ill-equipped. Brigadier Ed Butler, the commander of British forces in Afghanistan, said troops were "delivering over and above" and the recent spike in deaths had caused "profound personal devastation" among families, friends and colleagues. Defence expert Major Charles Heyman said the crash would inevitably cause military and political problems for Mr Blair's government. "It's always going to have an effect on domestic public opinion: people are going to say, 'what are our troops doing there?' "Overall, it begins to look like an unlucky operation." He said Pakistani contacts told him "the hills are crawling with well-armed and well-trained Taliban". "Given this fact, the government has two options: massive reinforcement or order them to withdraw."
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Yimmy       9/3/2006 10:52:51 AM
I went to a do last night for mates of mine from my old regiment who are off for their pre-deployment training now for Afghanistan...

It will be interesting to find out what caused the Nimrod crash.
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TAC II       9/3/2006 11:15:06 AM
Sad to hear about the loss...

This is a very unusual accident indeed. I think it very, very unlikely that the Talibs brought it down.
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