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Subject: Strapped for cash - future battlefiueld lift
interestedamateur    8/9/2006 8:59:57 AM
The army is talking about leasing future battlefield helicopters! See link
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Yimmy    RE:Strapped for cash - future battlefiueld lift   8/9/2006 9:26:01 AM
That is completely pathetic. It really makes me want to walk into parliament and start beating them all with a big stick. Please, please scrap Typhoons...... but tactical helicopter transports? Are they mad?!
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Lawman    RE:Strapped for cash - future battlefiueld lift   8/9/2006 9:32:13 AM
They should not scrap Typhoons, they should get their priorities straight. The Army needs far more helicopters - Chinooks (they should be Army owned, with the exception of SOF support ones), Merlins (again, large numbers for the Army, with a few for the RAF), and AW-149s instead of Lynx (or UH-60s/NH-90s). Leasing may work for small overseas permanent detachments (Brunei, Cyprus and Belize for example), but not for any combat roles!
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flamingknives    RE:Strapped for cash - future battlefield lift   8/9/2006 4:13:49 PM
I can't imagine why anyone would take the MoD up on this. You buy a shiney new helicopter, the MoD then gets to use it exclusively, handing it over to squaddies, of all people, and take it places where Jonny Foreigner can shoot at it.
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Yimmy    RE:Strapped for cash - future battlefield lift   8/9/2006 4:57:17 PM
DOn't be silly flamingknives, there will of cause be a claus in the contract, stating "no shooting near the aircraft".
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neutralizer    RE:Strapped for cash - future battlefield lift   8/10/2006 5:01:39 AM
It makes reasonable sense if you don't have the cash to pay up front and buy them. Of course they could end up costing more in the long run. Obviously any that are lost in action or from operator error will be paid for (no doubt there's a broker at Lloyds who could put together an insurance deal). Depending on the numbers involved the best approach would be to lease those fr the training organisation and so free up those currently used in the trianing units for operational units. Of course there's all sorts of detail, starting with who is responsible for maintaining them in the filed, but the Reserve Forces Act can take care of this. Also leasors usually want to on-sell their eqpt while it still has reasonable re-sale value, which means replacing with new machines. Could be a very sensible approach for mil helis. There is no natural law that requires military forces to actually own their eqpt.
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