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Subject: Some old British armours in the US
YelliChink    7/15/2010 12:57:40 AM
How many can you name? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jocHzPgTeKQ
 
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YelliChink       7/15/2010 12:58:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/jocHzPgTeKQ&hl=en_US&fs=1">http://www.youtube.com/v/jocHzPgTeKQ&hl=en_US&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385">
 
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flamingknives       7/16/2010 10:23:56 AM
In order:
2x Stalwart (the "Ducks")
FV432 "APC"
CVR(W) Fox "Our friends the Brits"
FV432 "Another Tracked Vehicle" - both FV432s have a GPMG turret.
Saracen "More armour for you"
Ferret Scout Car "Little light shooter"
2x Humber Pigs "Coupla trucks"
FV432 "another APC"
Saracen with additional eqt.. Possibly a command or signal variant "This one back here"
Not British "a truck"(after the boat)
Saracen Mk3 "Another 6-wheeler down here."
A bunch of trucks, none British
2 more Ferrets "Our friends the Brits have delivered again"
Humber Pig in the background "There's the Jeep right over there"
 
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YelliChink       7/16/2010 11:18:56 AM
Thanks FK, saved my time from digging out old military recognition handbooks.
 
Anyhow, is there any reason why British still largely use gas engines instead of diesel ones in early Cold War? Both Saracens and Humber Pigs were used in NI for extended period of time, and I guess that it would have been better had they use diesel instead of gas engines.
 
 
 
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SteveJH       7/17/2010 4:18:40 AM

Thanks FK, saved my time from digging out old military recognition handbooks.

 

Anyhow, is there any reason why British still largely use gas engines instead of diesel ones in early Cold War? Both Saracens and Humber Pigs were used in NI for extended period of time, and I guess that it would have been better had they use diesel instead of gas engines.
 

I'm guessing that at the time the diesel engines available did not meet the requirements. They may have been too loud, to big, to heavy or to unreliable?

 
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flamingknives       7/18/2010 4:39:06 PM
Petrol had a far better power-to-weight ratio for a long time. Long enough for the bulk of the AFVs in that clip. The newest is the CVR(W) Fox, at 1973 ISD.

That said, the FV432s fell into the "multi-fuel" trap, which sought to use any available fuel supply. In real life, diesel was readily available across Europe and the additional parts needed to change and associated inherent complexity meant that vehicles so equipped were unreliable and had no real advantages.

It would have been interesting to see how well the Chieftain would have done on the international market had it been fitted with a good diesel engine rather than the troublesome multi-fuel lump. 
 
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