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Subject: Here we go again.
Shirrush    11/27/2007 2:19:00 AM
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Shirrush       11/27/2007 2:23:40 AM
T'seems like the " youths" are having fun.
The French police is again proving its fortitude. Just like in May '68, they're taking horrendous casualties but still refrain from using live fire. I shudder at the thought of what a US police department or the Israeli Border Police would do if they were confronted with that sort of rioting.

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YelliChink       11/27/2007 1:56:00 PM
Racial gangs try to establish a lawless slum so that they can rule the street without fear of the law.
Same old story, different time and space.
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swhitebull       12/2/2007 3:25:47 PM
Time for Sarko to send in the military and break these animals, en masse. Then strip them of their French citizenship, if they have it, on grounds of sedition, then a quick escort back to their Muslim  points of origin:

Bad News From France   [Andrew Stuttaford]

Via the London Sunday Times:

In retrospect, it was not a good idea to have left his pistol at home. Called to the scene of a traffic accident in the Paris suburbs last Sunday, Jean-François Illy, a regional police chief, came face to face with a mob of immigrant youths armed with baseball bats, iron bars and shotguns. What happened next has sickened the nation. As Illy tried to reassure the gang that there would be an investigation into the deaths of two teenagers whose motorbike had just collided with a police car, he heard a voice shouting: ?Somebody must pay for this. Some pigs must die tonight!? The 43-year-old commissaire realised it was time to leave, but that was not possible: they set his car ablaze. He stood as the mob closed in on him, parrying the first few baseball bat blows with his arms. An iron bar in the face knocked him down. ?I tried to roll myself into a ball on the ground,? said Illy from his hospital bed. He was breathing with difficulty because several of his ribs had been broken and one had punctured his lung. His bruised and bloodied face signalled a worrying new level of barbarity in the mainly Muslim banlieues, where organised gangs of rioters used guns against police in a two-day rampage of looting and burning last week. Not far from where Illy was lying was a policeman who lost his right eye after being hit by pellets from a shotgun. Another policeman displayed a hole the size of a 10p coin in his shoulder where a bullet had passed through his body armour. Altogether 130 policemen were injured, dozens by shotgun pellets and shells packed with nails that were fired from a homemade bazooka. It prompted talk of urban ?guerrilla warfare? being waged on French streets against the forces of law and order.
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Jimme       12/2/2007 3:49:47 PM
Does France have an equivalent of the national guard like in the States? If so now is the time to send them in. Such violence against police, let alone a high ranking official should not under any circumstance be tolerated. Were there any serious consequences from the last riot ? If not this needs to change also. Get news helicopters in the area with the cameras on and press record. Then fully prosecute the perps afterward to the fullest extent of the law.
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swhitebull       12/2/2007 3:58:11 PM

Does France have an equivalent of the national guard like in the States? If so now is the time to send them in. Such violence against police, let alone a high ranking official should not under any circumstance be tolerated. Were there any serious consequences from the last riot ? If not this needs to change also. Get news helicopters in the area with the cameras on and press record. Then fully prosecute the perps afterward to the fullest extent of the law.

You have to realize that to expose these animals as being members of the Religion of the Perpetually Outraged,  Perpetually Offended ,  Perpetually Rioting  - also known as "Members of the Muslim Faith", rather than attributing their behavior to poverty, etc,   would be MOST politically incorrect, and upset the elite at their morning croissants?
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swhitebull    Will the Riots Spill Over to Amsterdam?    12/2/2007 4:50:54 PM

Beats me, Sherlock   [Mark Steyn]

From Der Spiegel, a report on how Europe's most tolerant city no longer seems quite so tolerant:

With the number of homophobic attacks rising in the Dutch metropolis, Amsterdam officials are commissioning a study to determine why Moroccan men are targeting the city's gays. 

Gee, whiz. That's a toughie. Wonder what the reason could be. But don't worry, the University of Amsterdam is on top of things:

Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity. 

Bingo! Telling young Moroccan men they're closeted gays seems certain to lessen tensions in the city! While you're at it, a lot of those Turks seem a bit light on their loafers, don't you think?

Any researchers who haven't fully signed on to the "social stigmatization" argument might like to dust off the reports following the stabbing in 2002 of Paris' first openly gay mayor, Bertrand Delanoe, by a Muslim immigrant, Azedine Berkane. Le Monde reported the views of M Berkane's neighbors:

?He was a bit like us,? said one. ?We?re all homophobic here, because it?s not natural.?

?It?s against Islam,? said another. ?Muslim fags don?t exist.? 
As I say somewhere in my book: If you think Iraq's Kurds and Arabs, Sunni and Shia are incompatible, what do you call a jurisdiction split between post-Christian secular gay potheads and anti-whoring anti-sodomite anti-everything-you-dig Islamists? If Kurdistan?s an awkward fit in Iraq, how well will Pornostan fit in the Islamic Republic of Holland?
swhitebull - again,  a Politically-Inconvient Truth
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Godofgamblers       12/3/2007 7:46:57 AM
These punks should be sent back to their countries of origin in a post office bag. They are completely out of order and deluded. They would all do well with a whirlwind tour of their countries of origin... it seems they have forgotten what they are like. Monarchies, military dictatorships... in Morocco for example, you can virtually count the industries on one hand. There is sardine fishing off the Atlantic coast.... a sulphates mine in Safi, textiles in the south, a few gem quarries... a center for German tourists in Agadir....and what else? Which of these industries would they like to work in?
I would give my right arm to live and work in France.
There is a scene in a recent French movie about Beurs who fought in the French army in WW2 (INDIGENES). They reach France and cannot believe the soil. It is so rich; if there were soil like this in Morocco, we could actually grow something, they comment. How right they are : the soil, like the cultural and intellectual climate there is dead. You can scarcely eke out a living there.
Maybe they should try their fortunes in their home countries since they are so badly off in France...
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Shirrush       12/3/2007 9:26:47 AM
GoG, you're wrong about Morocco. It is North Africa's most investor-friendly country, and the deep alluvial soil of its northern and northwestern slope, which is intersected by REAL rivers flowing down from the high Atlas mountains, is nowhere as barren as you imagine. Israeli companies are making a cool bundle supplying Europe with Moroccan-grown strawberries, fr'instance, and Moroccan citrus fruits, which are of better quality and much tastier than the ordinary Spanish merchandise, enjoy the favor of the discriminating European consumer. The Northern African Mitidja plain used to be the breadbasket of the Roman Empire. Then came the Arabs. More the Fathers of the Desert than its Sons IMHO...
Besides, everybody I know that has been there, Sepharadi-Jewish or not, has come back with glinting eyes, and that includes my own old man, who was ever striving to justify a business trip to this friendly jewel of a country. I haven't been there myself, but I'm told that while the countryside and the mountains offer vistas of beauty and abundance, from endless cedar forests complete with surprising wildlife to the best hashish west of the Euphrates, the cities now look more or less like Gaza, which tends to explain the mentality prevailing among the Moroccan immigrants in the Low Countries.

Come to think of it, most large cities on this vogging planet are starting to look and feel like Gaza. Or worse...

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Shirrush    Look at this:   12/3/2007 9:37:52 AM
Moulay-Idriss, Morocco:


Not the bleak desert you imagine.

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swhitebull    More Mystery "Youths"   12/3/2007 12:27:07 PM

Mystery Youths Rioting In France As Media Dare Not Utter The 'M-Word'   [Candace de Russy]

From Hyscience:

We are now entering 3 days of rioting ( 77 Police Officers Injured in Paris- Rioters Using Shotguns!) ? by Muslim youths of mostly North African dissent ? media go to such great lengths to avoid telling the truth about perpetrators of violence when Muslims are involved, and how insanely and unreasonably they react to even an accident. Even though almost 100% of the violence in the world today is perpetuated by followers of the Islamic faith, and roughly 0% is initiated by followers of any other, the media continuously chooses to lead us to believe that it is almost normal for "youths" of "undefined affiliation" to spontaneously react to an accident with violence and mayhem. And such is the case again in France.

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