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Subject: President of France : Nicolas Sarkozy
Bluewings12    5/6/2007 4:28:38 PM
Today , the French people choose wisely N. Sarkozy as their next President . I am glad ! Those who wants to debate are welcome . Cheers .
 
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Hugo    Sarkozy   5/6/2007 4:53:15 PM
Whether or not it was a wise choice is yet to be determined.  Let's wait to see what sort of president he turns out to be before passing judgement.
 
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Claymore       5/6/2007 5:09:43 PM

Whether or not it was a wise choice is yet to be determined.  Let's wait to see what sort of president he turns out to be before passing judgement.


What are you talking about? He sure as hell will be better than that loon socialist whore
 
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Shirrush       5/6/2007 5:25:11 PM
Bad language Claymore.
The real Sarkozy presidency will only begin after the parliament is elected in June.
Until then, let us hope that we'll see a new and less statist approach, and that France will mend its relationship with the US.

 
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RaptorZ       5/6/2007 10:16:00 PM
I think this could be huge for Global politics.  No offense but my view was Chirac was always about blockin the US...when I read this:
 
"The French people have called for change. I will carry out that change, because
that's the mandate I have received from the French people."

Sarkozy added that he wanted to tell his "American friends that they can rely on
our friendship ... France will always be next to them when they need us."
 
when I read those quotes,  I see some major potential in solving some major disputes...is it me or is Europe moving more to the right...if followed through I see nothing but good things on the horizon for the Atlantic relationships....
 
 
 
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Yimmy       5/6/2007 10:20:02 PM
Bit of a shame if you ask me.
 
Going by my learnings at university, I would rather the bird one.  At least she was semi-good looking.  Would make for the only shaggable state leader in living memory.
 
 
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Herald1234    ?????????????????   5/7/2007 4:01:02 AM
Unitary or victorious, Yimmy?

Segolene Royale is one person, but she won nothing.

Herald

 
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swhitebull    Some Analysis and Commentary from America's Heartland   5/7/2007 10:46:43 AM
With a little bit of Der Spiegel thrown in for good measure.
 
From CaptainsQuartersblog.com:
 
 

EuroShock: France Moves Right

Europe appears in shock today as the center of European socialism has rejected the Socialists and moved to the right. The victory of Nicolas Sarkozy in the French presidential election has the continent abuzz, trying to discern its meaning and its impact for the rest of Europe. Der Spiegel reports that France "lurched" to the Right, and warns of social conflict as a result:

Perhaps it wasn't exactly a landslide, but it was certainly an unambiguous result: France's 44 million voters have chosen Nicolas Sarkozy, the strong man of the governing UMP, with a resounding majority and a record turnout. They have chosen his vision of a radical revitalization of the Republic and a return to the nation's patriotic foundations. Sarkozy's convincing win is the triumph of political individualism over the rival worldview of the Socialist candidate Ségòlene Royal and her vision of a "participatory democracy" -- which too often got lost in vague affirmations.

What's clear about Sunday's vote is that it marks a turning point for France. After the gray era of 12 years of "Chiraquie," the citizens of France have backed the candidate who spoke of change and even a "break" with established tradition. With an eye to chronic unemployment, spiraling state debt, globalization and the disappearance of entire industry sectors to lower-wage countries, the French have put their money on a politician who has always vowed to radically and swiftly liquidate France's historic mortgage -- the civil servant apparatus, the privileges of teachers and social workers, the influence of the unions.

 

Stefan Simons doesn't make this sound like a beneficial move on the part of the French. He denigrates the notion that Sarkozy will make any changes to France's direction, noting that Sarkozy helped Jacques Chirac run France for the past five years. He's hardly an outsider, Simons complains, even if he almost ran as an opposition candidate. That's about what a non-Socialist is in Europe these days, though, something Simons doesn't address.

He also sneers that Sarkozy ran a campaign based on fear. Sarkozy "dipp[ed] his hand into the toolbox of America's neoconservatives," Simons accuses. However, it was Segolene Royal who tried to scare the French away from Sarkozy by talking about riots in the streets if he won; Simons doesn't bother to mention that, nor does he give any thought at all to the fact that Socialism is founded on fear. Socialism addresses the fear of failure by never giving individuals the opportunity to risk and gain in proportion to that risk.

Simons deplores the thought of Sarkozy at the helm of the presidency, and doesn't bother to mask it. He fears that Sarkozy will be "seduced" by the power of his office. Farther on, he dreads Sarkozy's "brutish approach" and warns that he will pay no regard to "civil society". The problem the French perceive is that civil society is under threat from riotous Muslims, unemployment, and a sense of failure.

In fact, Americans might recall this kind of hysteria. It happened in late 1980, when Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter, and the liberals screeched that the end was nigh for American democracy.

The Times of London takes a more balanced approach:

Setting the tone for a revolution after 12 years in which President Chirac often seemed to be disconnected from events, Mr Sarkozy has promised that after he takes office on May 17: “I will not be a referee, a monarch sheltering in the Elysée Palace. I will govern and take responsibility.”

His first task, after several days’ reflection, is to appoint a Prime Minister and what he says will be a tight Cabinet of only 15 full ministers. ...

Mr Sarkozy, who calls himself the “champion of the France that gets up early in the morning”, expects to face strong resistance from trade unions, public-service workers and the Left to his radical measures to encourage people to work longer hours and to cut benefits for the unemployed. He believes that his mandate from the majority of France will give him the authority to face down protesters, as Margaret Thatcher did in Britain after 1979. “I’m sorry if they don’t like change, but they are not the ones being elected,” Mr Sarkozy said of the powerful, Communist-led CGT union.

 

If Sarkozy can get the kind of reaction from

 
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RockyMTNClimber    Curious   5/7/2007 11:49:37 AM
 
What power does the Frnech President have? Is he commander & chief? Does Sarkozy have a strong enough hand on the Parliment to actually make legislative changes to Tax policy? Labor? GWOT?
 
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Rocky
 
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swhitebull       5/7/2007 12:30:02 PM
Its been a while  (30 years), but when I studied european political systems, I recall that a French President serves for 6 years per term (Chirac has served twice), has stronger inherent powers than the US president ( I cant enumerate them right now), and got to choose him PM.
 
He still has to work with his parliament, but has more flexibility even when his party is not the majority ( I might be stretching my memory here). The position is NOT ceremonial at all (like it would be in England with the monarchy, Israel with its President, or other coutnries where the Prime Minister is the real power.
 
Anyone out there, please correct or enhance for me.
 
 
swhitebull
 
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Bluewings12       5/7/2007 4:30:12 PM
I am going to try to answer on some important points .

RaptorZ :
""The French people have called for change. I will carry out that change, because
that's the mandate I have received from the French people."
Sarkozy added that he wanted to tell his "American friends that they can rely on
our friendship ... France will always be next to them when they need us."
 when I read those quotes,  I see some major potential in solving some major disputes...is it me or is Europe moving more to the right...if followed through I see nothing but good things on the horizon for the Atlantic relationships....""

Yes , the French people have called for a change . A radical change . Socialism in France is almost dead since 1995 , only few hard-liners kept fighting a lost War .
Regarding America , don' t get N. Sarkozy wrong  : He 's on the USA side ~at least on some economical  points~ but He is for the Kyoto Treaty and He will fight for it with jaws and claws . It is time to do something about our Planet .
Nevertheless , He is from the right and America can expect to see a change in France 's Foreign policy . The USA have a new allie with Sarkozy .
As a side note , T. Blair is socialist but he did follow the USA for GW2 (think about it) . Nothing is white or Black in Europe . It is a very good thing that France decided ~with a rather big margin~ to go back to a right stand .
Anyway , to me , Europe still enjoy Socialism . Unfortunatly ...

Yimmy :
""Bit of a shame if you ask me.""

Yimmy , shame on you .
The only thing T. Blair did good was on the Ireland problem . History will thanks him for it . All the rest is very average ...

Rocky :
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What power does the French President have? Is he commander & chief? Does Sarkozy have a strong enough hand on the Parliment to actually make legislative changes to Tax policy? Labor? GWOT?""

Yes , He is the
commander & chief . He decides who goes where and why .
French People still have to elect the Parliement but they will obviously give the new President a Majority to work with and to allow Him to put in place His ideas and policies .
Labor ?
N. Sarkozy is going to engage talks with the Leftists to make them understand that French People elected a Right Wing President and all they have to do is to make sure that nobody in France is left on the side . It will work , because His social program is poor-proof .
Tax policy ?
He 's very clear about it : lower the taxes ~all taxes~ and make sure that everybody gets his share .
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Myself :
France did not get such straight talking Man since WW2 . This is a "revolution" in French Politics . French People have awakened .
It is time to make France a Voice again in the World . We will support WOT more than ever and we will fight wherever it is needed .
To the hardliners Muslims : watch out , France is back .
To Israel : You have one more strong Friend .
To Iran : You will not get nuclear weapons .

I sincerly believe that N. Sarkozy will keep His word . He 's the French guts and He will do a good job .

Cheers .









 
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