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JIMF
5/2/2007 7:41:49 PM
"At least (this has) served one purpose, which is to show that you get angry very quickly, you go off the rails very easily, Madame. A president is someone who has very serious responsibilities," Sarkozy said.
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Shirrush
The debate.
5/3/2007 4:25:28 AM
I watched the entire debate last night, as it was streamed by most of the French MSM websites.
I do hope the French people will think twice before they give Mrs. Royal the keys to the nuclear suitcase.
Defense matters were not discussed at all, and European and foreign affairs got very little attention, a few minutes at the end of a two and a half hours confrontation, that was mostly dedicated to economic and social issues such as the national debt and the retirement funds crisis.
Sarkozy did not miss the mandatory lip service to the prevailing anti-American screed, when he reminded the audience that while he opposes Turkey's accession to the EU, the US is pushing for it in order to empty the European idea of meaning and substance, aptly reminding the voters that Europe should not have a boundary with Syria, Iraq and Iran, and has no interest in acquiring a Kurdish problem.
The candidates did not even make a passing mention of the global jihad, and the question of immigration did not elicit much of an argument between them. Sarkozy, however, managed to subtly convey the perception that his opponent would be more likely than he is to throw the gates open to the Barbarians.
Segolene did not make any clear statement on Europe, Turkey, or immigration, and gave the impression that she does not really have a position or does not care about these issues.
It is to be noted that both candidates made firm statements against Iran acquiring nukes, any nukes, but none of them even hinted at the policy they would implement in order to achieve that.
I know I am biased by the situation of the country where I live, but I would like to ask the French voters one question: which of the candidates do you see as more suitable to lead you, and safely get you through wartime?
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nominoe
5/3/2007 10:34:21 AM
sarkozy would be more suitable to lead france during wartime
But royal would be more suitable to avoid wartime.
If sarkozy was president in 2003, french soldiers would be in irak. Relations with the US would be better for sure, but i'm not convinced that would justify being implied in this mess.
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JIMF
5/3/2007 2:39:57 PM
I'm guessing, but I doubt if Sarkozy would have gotten France involved in Iraq. I think he would have followed a line used by a Foreign Office Official in the British Comedy "Yes Prime Minister" i.e. "provide all assistance, short of help"
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french stratege
5/3/2007 4:49:14 PM
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I'm guessing, but I doubt if Sarkozy would have gotten France involved in Iraq. I think he would have followed a line used by a Foreign Office Official in the British Comedy "Yes Prime Minister" i.e. "provide all assistance, short of help"
Sarkozy would not have supported war in Iraq in the same conditions i.e with lack of serious WMD evidences and dangerosity of Saddam to western interests.France wanted to maintain an united Iraq and avoid any war which could be interpreted as a imperialistic war in this area and fuel anger to islamism, and wanted to avoid Iran taking benefit of a weakened Iraq.
Moreover Saddam was friendly with France and France will not attack a former friend without serious reasons to do it.
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