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Subject: Chirac
sofa    3/11/2007 6:02:14 PM
Notice Jack was of modest birth, became a bureaucrat out of school and then entered politics. Career civil servant, and now he's rich! Many high profile bribes asserted, but no investigation or prosecution... With Jack leaving, who will be the next bribe-taker-in-chief?
 
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Softwar    Red Jack   3/13/2007 3:28:22 PM
With the string of murders in the Thales/ROC frigate deal - I prefer to think of him as bloody "Red" Jack (a play on Jack the Ripper).  Clearly, the French legal system of investigating, and prosecuting bribes and kickbacks broke down, resulting in a violent stream of killing.  Jack has been implicated in the deal but no one dares look into it - seems anyone who does either falls out of 20 story building or just hangs themselves.  Kind of like Russian media members of late.
 
Of course, one of the FOIA documents I acquired noted the French have a habit of providing "incentive" money in some of their export deals - so I'm sure there was plenty of Euros to pass around.  Between the ROC frigates and the Oil For Food with Iraq - one has to wonder where bloody Red Jack has his cash stashed.
 
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DynamicTraveler       3/14/2007 2:52:18 PM
Interesting.
I had not heard of murders linked to Thales/ROC, do you have an article or link on this?
 
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Softwar       3/14/2007 3:16:45 PM
 
Taiwanese State Public Prosecutor-General Wu Ying-chao ordered the unsealing of Swiss bank files on Thursday related to a high-profile kickback scandal involving Taiwan's $2.8 billion procurement of six Kang Ding Class multi-role semi-stealth frigates (aka. Lafayette Class, which has been used as the base for several nations' frigate designs) from France in 1991.
 
Wu's directive marked an about-face from his previous announcement that the top-secret files would not be unpacked until after the December 3 elections; but Swiss authorities have demanded that the Taiwan government come up with a request before mid-December 2005 for the return of the SFR 900 million Lafayette-related slush fund frozen in Swiss banks. That demand changes the complexion of the investigation, and could have implications for both Taiwan's upcoming elections and its stalled defense procurement plans.
 
If the Swiss deadline is missed, Wu said, the key suspect in the case, Andrew Wang, would be able to regain access to the fund and destroy all relevant evidence. Wang has been charged in absentia with murder (naval Captain Yin Ching-feng, believed to have been about to blow the whistle), corruption, money laundering and fraud.

Switzerland has provided Taiwan and two other involved countries with a collection of bank files related to the Lafayette deal. The files include 46 bank accounts under the names of Andrew Wang (French firm Thomson-CSF's - now Thales - Taiwan agent), his three sons, and Wang's company, all of whose accounts have been frozen by the Swiss Federal Court.

The Taiwan Government Information Office notes that the files also include a number of previously unexposed overseas bank accounts related to the Lafayette frigate deal, as well as information about relevant capital flow in Switzerland - including deposit times and destinations of the capital.
 
 
 
Taiwan Reduces Claim Against Thales in ’91 Frigate Sale Scandal
 
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sofa    Chirac to face corruption charges when he steps down   3/14/2007 5:29:17 PM

Chirac To Face Corruption Charges When He Steps Down

From the UK’s Telegraph:

Chirac to face corruption charges

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13/03/2007

When Jacques Chirac hands in the keys to the Elysée palace on May 16, he will also lose his presidential immunity and runs the risk of prosecution in at least four corruption cases.

Mr Chirac, 74, has been linked to a string of party funding and other scandals known as “les affaires,” which date back to his time as mayor of Paris from 1977 to 1995. Scores of former associates have been convicted for their involvement.
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A constitutional reform adopted last month confirmed that French presidents are immune from questioning or prosecution while in office, but can face charges the moment they stand down.

The first threat to an untroubled Chirac retirement could come from two cases involving the illegal use of Paris city funds to pay staff and allies of his Gaullist Rally for the Republic, or RPR, party, a precursor to the ruling Union for a Popular Movement.

Mr Chirac’s former right hand man, the former prime minister Alain Juppé, was convicted in January 2004 for his role in that scheme, receiving a suspended jail sentence and a year-long ban on holding public office. He is now mayor of Bordeaux.

Judges in a Nanterre court have in their possession a letter signed by Mr Chirac asking for the promotion of a municipal worker in fact working for his RPR party.

A third case relates to a Paris printing firm which is suspected of rigging public tender contracts and of funding the RPR via the mayor’s office - although the events may be too distant.

Mr Chirac’s former lieutenant at City Hall, Michel Roussin, was convicted in 2005 along with 42 politicians, party officials and businessmen over a similar system that rigged public works contracts to fund the RPR.

The last case focuses on allegations that the outgoing president and his wife Bernadette accepted free air tickets from the charter airline Euralair - today called Air Horizons - prior to the 1995 presidential election.

Several other affairs implicating Mr Chirac have been dropped, including a probe into entertainment bills of more than two million euros in cash spent by the Chiracs while at City Hall, known as the “frais de bouche” scandal.

With the final countdown ticking, Mr Chirac has been busy nominating allies to key posts in a bid to bury possible allegations. Late last year he named his former advisor at the Elysée, Laurent Le Mesle, to the post of Paris state prosecutor - the man with the power to rekindle such investigations.

Another judge, Philippe Courroye, believed to be close to Mr Chirac is to be named state prosecutor in Nanterre, against the wishes of the country’s highest magistrates body.

Last week, Mr Chirac made his most loyal servant, Jean-Louis Debré, president of the constitutional council, the country’s highest constitutional court.

But just in case all else fails, Mr Chirac is also said to be earnestly seeking a post as an environmental ambassador to the UN, which would extend his immunity, perhaps for life.

The article doesn’t even touch on Chirac’s most outlandish and internationally important scandal — his kickbacks from the UN’s Oil For Palaces Food program.

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But the French will probably never bring that up. After all, that was just about making money.

Which is all they ever care about.

But just in case all else fails, Mr Chirac is also said to be earnestly seeking a post as an environmental ambassador to the UN, which would extend his immunity, perhaps for life.

No surprise there. The UN has always been the sanctuary of scoundrels.

And after all, they were his partners in crime.

 
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Ezekiel       3/17/2007 1:30:30 PM
symbolizes the epitomy of todays career politician....  no ethic only that of staying in power. No guiding ideology accept that of a spoiler and a maximizer of material gain. Funny enough for all his nationalist bravado he has engendered and then ignored the problem of France being swept by its sharia minorities and if statistics are correct will make France part of eurabia...... maybe its capital.
 
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sofa       3/17/2007 2:34:36 PM
At the individual level, the french, like the arabs, are notorious for double-speak, lying using overly nuanced language to hide it from themselves, saying one thing and doing the other, working double and triple games against their friends. Cultures of corruption. Attraction of likes? Or are the french just sucked-in to their own double game with the arabs, and not able to extricate themselves from their own insidious plotting?
 
Whereas in my experience, individual Aussies, Yanks, and Finns are particulalry noted for direct plain speach which means what it says. Men of their word who look you in the eye and are straight shooters. Truth is valued. Cultures of efficiency and progress through hard work and personal honor. Not everyone of course, but most of the 'average joes' and most of those who run small to mid sized communities, organizations, and businesses.
 
Broad sweeping generalities about cultures are sure to offend some and match the observations of many others.  Just an opinion. Your own results may vary.
 
 
 
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sofa    Super-Liar   3/17/2007 10:28:35 PM
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Corruption judge 'to quiz Chirac'
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Jacques Chirac will lose his presidential immunity in mid-June
French justice officials say President Jacques Chirac will be questioned when he leaves office by a judge leading a corruption case, AFP news agency says.

The investigation dates to the time when he served as mayor of Paris. Several of Mr Chirac's political allies have already faced investigation.

Mr Chirac, 74, has denied the allegations dating from 1977-1995.

He said on Sunday he would not stand again for president. He has been immune from prosecution while head of state.

Mr Chirac will stand down in mid-May, following presidential elections next month, and his immunity will end a month later.

During his time as mayor, there were widespread claims that Mr Chirac and his entourage were using city funds to pay for his then political party, the Rally for the Republic (RPR).

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Questions were raised over Mr Chirac's use of funds while mayor
One of his closest allies in Paris city hall, former French Prime Minister Alain Juppe, was convicted in January 2004 in connection with a party funding scam.

The BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Paris says questions have also been asked about Mr Chirac's luxury family holidays while mayor, paid for in cash, as well as the lavish spending of city money on Chirac family groceries.

However, it is not clear that there is much public appetite for criminal proceedings, our correspondent says.

Although Mr Chirac was caricatured as "super-liar" on French television and many feel that his long years in power achieved little, she says, there is still much public affection for the man who incarnated France's greatest strengths - and its greatest weaknesses.

 
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