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Subject: What Special Forces are the best?
mike14    2/15/2005 2:27:20 PM
I think the Austrian Special Forces or US Navy Seals
 
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Ehran       10/20/2006 1:39:21 PM




No I dont care if anyone believes I am just telling you the truth thats all. SEALs do learn Ninjitsu if you dont beleve me then do some research maybe it tells you they do some ware, but I know for a fact they do.




Ninja skills huh.  Hmmm.  That must have come out of some post Patilla reforms then.  My research tells me that Pre Patilla they seemed to have had some problems with infiltration techniques, at least once they got past the high water mark. 

Then there's also that tendency to use a rifle like a bullet hose and to consider said bullet hose to be effective cover. 

considering that ninja aren't even authentic jappanese folklore and that if there is a "ninjutsu" it's been developed since ninja first cropped up in hong kong action movies it's not wise to boast of being trained in it. 
the guy who wrote the L5R rpg researched ninja for the game and his findings were that they had been created as mook bad guys by the movie industry.
 
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longrifle       10/20/2006 1:53:35 PM
It was a good natured dig, GOP.    Horsesoldier decided to stay out of it, so I thought I'd take over for the day! 
 
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joe6pack       10/20/2006 2:09:27 PM

It was a good natured dig, GOP.    Horsesoldier decided to stay out of it, so I thought I'd take over for the day! 


Hey but if only their ninjitsu was up to par they wouldn't be walking into ambushes and having to user their patented spray and pra... err I mean peel maneuver
 
 
 
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JasonX       10/20/2006 2:35:05 PM
Dont you know that it takes 5 years to be a complete or Elite Navy Seal the first 3to4 years you go on real missions, but are still considered baby seals or seal pups it takes many years to be complete, and start those sneaky sensitive missions.
 
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GOP       10/20/2006 2:37:38 PM

It was a good natured dig, GOP.    Horsesoldier decided to stay out of it, so I thought I'd take over for the day! 


Oh, in that case, I think you did a great job at doing what Horsesoldier typically does regarding Navy SEALs (and only Navy SEALs): Speak heresay, make factual errors, and say things that aren't true  (only kidding)
 
Joe, you miss interpreted the video. The SEALs who were doing the center peel weren't in the ambush, they were performing the ambush (they performed the ambush, then faded back into the forest before the much larger force could kill them). And yes, the SEALs are the best ninja's on the planet (the world could end if two Navy SEAL roundhouse kicks met)...Chuck Norris has nothing on Rich Marcinko  (and yes, only Richard Marinko thinks that)
 
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GOP       10/20/2006 2:46:32 PM

Dont you know that it takes 5 years to be a complete or Elite Navy Seal the first 3to4 years you go on real missions, but are still considered baby seals or seal pups it takes many years to be complete, and start those sneaky sensitive missions.

 
Here's a look at what it takes to become a deployable SEAL:
It takes 6 months to complete BUD/S, about 6 weeks to complete AB training, 6 months of SQT, I believe 1 week of survival training in Kodiak Alaska (which may or may not be part of SQT, not sure), then you have a 1 year probationary period. So the training pipeline is about 2 years long, then you are an official SEAL (with the Trident) and start your 18 month deployment workup schedule to become deployable. That is 3/12 years to become deployable, and after your first deployment you are looked on as a respected SEAL.
 
 Sneaky sensitive missions? You mean the kind where you are an assasin/hit squat/personal protection for the NSA or CIA? Nah, that is reserved for super secret paramilitary units
 
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JasonX       10/20/2006 2:47:36 PM
LOL There you go I rest my case Navy SEALs are the best Ninja Soldiers on the Planet.....
 
 
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joe6pack       10/20/2006 2:50:23 PM



It was a good natured dig, GOP.    Horsesoldier decided to stay out of it, so I thought I'd take over for the day! 



Oh, in that case, I think you did a great job at doing what Horsesoldier typically does regarding Navy SEALs (and only Navy SEALs): Speak heresay, make factual errors, and say things that aren't true  (only kidding)

 

Joe, you miss interpreted the video. The SEALs who were doing the center peel weren't in the ambush, they were performing the ambush (they performed the ambush, then faded back into the forest before the much larger force could kill them). And yes, the SEALs are the best ninja's on the planet (the world could end if two Navy SEAL roundhouse kicks met)...Chuck Norris has nothing on Rich Marcinko  (and yes, only Richard Marinko thinks that)



Wow.. I can't say I really know anything about SEALs or much about SF but that explanation is scary!  (I'm being some what serious here)  But my NON super triple elite special ninjitsu (joking there) Army Infantry training strongly suggested that you don't try to ambush enemy elements that are larger than your own (for just the reason mentioned).   I didn't watch the video clip, but now you've sparked my interest...  Why in the world would an SF element START an engagment against a much larger force?
 
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JasonX       10/20/2006 2:54:11 PM
Yeah but SEALs do go on Recon missions two at a time I think its called the Black Cell back when Seal Team six was around. RECON and Surveillance or something like that.
 
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JasonX       10/20/2006 2:57:40 PM
I just watched the clip to, I think thats one way they teach you to fool the enemy that they are being attacked by a much larger force.
 
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