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Hey if the UK & America have the best Special Op's Forces - Where Osama?
human7
8/12/2004 10:18:14 PM
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historynut
6/15/2007 12:16:44 PM
Gixxx is right .
Nevertheless , here is something you might not know :
The Brit SAS had Bin Laden in theirs scopes in Afghanistan before tora-bora for 2 hrs , they reported and recieved the following order "stay on standby , wait for the US Marines to arrive , do not fire" .
The US Marines never came .
One of the many strange things about Bin Laden and the Bush Administration ...
This infos has been given to a couple of Brit newspapers by the SAS ITSELF as they were so pised off .
Cheers .
The strange thing I find about this is the SAS going to the newspapers. I've known about things a lot worse and a lot more interesting that they were a lot more pissed off about that never got into the newspapers. Things that they would have been free to talk about. Kind of wonder if it was someone in an SAS uniform going to a newspaper with a story.
Do know that checking though channels if someone is in the SAS is interesting at times "Yes, he is in the British army". For some reason (security?) they sometimes don't want just anyone to know just who's on active duty with the SAS.
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dirtykraut
6/15/2007 1:24:19 PM
Gixxx is right .
Nevertheless , here is something you might not know :
The Brit SAS had Bin Laden in theirs scopes in Afghanistan before tora-bora for 2 hrs , they reported and recieved the following order "stay on standby , wait for the US Marines to arrive , do not fire" .
The US Marines never came .
One of the many strange things about Bin Laden and the Bush Administration ...
This infos has been given to a couple of Brit newspapers by the SAS ITSELF as they were so pised off .
Cheers .
The strange thing I find about this is the SAS going to the newspapers. I've known about things a lot worse and a lot more interesting that they were a lot more pissed off about that never got into the newspapers. Things that they would have been free to talk about. Kind of wonder if it was someone in an SAS uniform going to a newspaper with a story.
Do know that checking though channels if someone is in the SAS is interesting at times "Yes, he is in the British army". For some reason (security?) they sometimes don't want just anyone to know just who's on active duty with the SAS.
I wouldn't get your prick in a knot over it. This is only one of the hundreds of rumors started by a British SAS fanboy club. The kind that drinks hot chocalate and jacks off to the Iranian embassy siege on Saturday nights.
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5/26/2008 11:43:26 PM
"During this period, most U.S. officials perceived the volunteers as positivecontributors to the effort to expelSovietforces fromAfghanistan, and U.S.officials madeno apparent effort to stop the recruitment of the non-Afghan volunteers for the war. U.S.officials have repeatedlydenied that the United States directlysupported the volunteers,5although the United States did covertly finance (about $3 billion during 1981-1991) andarm(viaPakistan) the Afghan mujahedinfactions, particularlythe Islamic fundamentalistAfghan factions, fighting Soviet forces. During this period, neither bin Laden, Azzam,nor Abd al-Rahman was known to have openly advocated, undertaken, or planned anydirect attacks against the United States, although theyall were critical of U.S. support forIsrael in the Middle East. In 1988, toward the end of the Soviet occupation, bin Laden and Azzam begancontemplating how, and to what end, to utilize the Islamist volunteer network they hadorganized. U.S. intelligence estimates of the size of that network was about 10,000 -20,000, although not all of these necessarily supported or joined Al Qaeda terroristactivities.6Azzam reportedly wanted this ?Al Qaeda? (Arabic for ?the base?)organization to becomeanIslamic?rapid reaction force,? available tointervene whereverMuslims were perceived as threatened. Bin Laden differed with Azzam, hoping insteadto dispatch the Al Qaeda activists to their home countries to try to topple secular, pro-Western Arab leaders, such as President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt and Saudi Arabia?sroyal family. Some attribute their differences to the growing influence on bin Laden ofthe Egyptians in his inner circle, such as Abd al-Rahman, who wanted to use Al Qaeda?sresources to install an Islamic state in Egypt. Another close Egyptian confidant was Dr.Ayman al-Zawahiri, operational leader of Al Jihad in Egypt. Like Abd al-Rahman,
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CRS-3Zawahiri had beenimprisoned but ultimatelyacquitted for the October 1981 assassinationof Egyptian President Anwar Sadat, and he permanently left Egypt for Afghanistan in1985. There, he used his medical training to tend to wounded fighters in the anti-Sovietwar. In November 1989, Azzam was assassinated, and some allege that bin Laden mighthave been responsible for the killing to resolve this power struggle. Following Azzam?sdeath, bin Laden gained control of the Maktab?s funds and organizational mechanisms.(Abd al-Rahman later came to the United States and was convicted in October 1995 forterrorist plots related to the February 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center in NewYork. Zawahiri stayed with bin Laden and remains bin Laden?s main strategist today.)The Threat UnfoldsThe August 2, 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait apparently turned bin Laden from ade-facto U.S. ally against the Soviet Union into one of its most active adversaries. BinLaden had returned home to Saudi Arabia in 1989, after the completion of the Sovietwithdrawal from Afghanistan that February. While back home, he lobbied Saudi officialsnot to host the 500,000 U.S. combat troops that defended Saudi Arabia from the Iraqiinvasion and ultimatelyexpelled Iraq from Kuwait in ?Operation Desert Storm?(January16 - February 28, 1991). He argued instead for the raising of a ?mujahedin?army to oustIraq from Kuwait, but his idea was rebuffed as impractical, causing his falling out withSaudi leaders. He relocated to Sudan in 1991, buying property there which he used tohost and train Al Qaeda militants ? this time, for use against the United States and itsinterests, as well as for jihad operations in the Balkans, Chechnya, Kashmir, and thePhilippines. He remained there until the Sudanese government, under U.S. and Egyptianpressure, expelled him in May 1996; he then returned to Afghanistan and helped theTaliban gain and maintain control of Afghanistan. (The Taliban captured Kabul inSeptember 1996.) Bin Laden and Zawahiri apparently believed that the only way to bring Islamicregimes to power was to oust from the region the perceived backer of secular regionalregimes, the United States. During the 1990s, bin Laden and Zawahiri transformed AlQaeda into a global threat to U.S. national security, culminating in the September 11,2001 attacks. Bythis time, Al Qaeda had become a coalition of factions of radical Islamicgroups operating throughout the Muslim world, mostly groups opposing theirgovernments. Cells and associates have been located in over 70 countries, according toU.S. officials. Amongthe groups in the Al Qaeda coalition, virtuallyall of which are stillactive today, are : the Islamic Group and Al Jihad (Egypt), the Armed Islamic Group andthe Salafist Group f
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