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Subject: Navy seals vs green beret
savy neal    8/12/2005 9:21:32 PM
I don't no which one would be better for me to pursue ,do green berets do black ops.
 
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ArtyEngineer    RE:Navy seals vs green beret    8/13/2005 2:25:16 AM
Is somebody attempting to make a career choich based on playing Splinter Cell? What do you believe constitutes "Black Ops"?
 
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GOP    RE:Navy seals vs green beret    8/14/2005 12:33:48 PM
The Green Berets and Navy SEALs are basically doing the same kind of missions in Afghanistan and Iraq (except the Green Berets are helping train the ISF). Not many of our SOCOM/Commando units do 'black ops' like you see in Hollywood movies. Alot of our current Navy SEALs in Iraq are basically acting like a 'Super SWAT' team and raiding insurgent leaders houses, etc. Not too many 'black ops' needed in Iraq or Afghanistan, although they do require some secrecy before the mission. If anyone is doing the 'black ops' it is the British SAS and Delta, and it is not very probable
 
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moughoun1    RE:Navy seals vs green beret    8/16/2005 10:38:52 AM
>>The Green Berets and Navy SEALs are basically doing the same kind of missions in Afghanistan and Iraq (except the Green Berets are helping train the ISF). Not many of our SOCOM/Commando units do 'black ops' like you see in Hollywood movies. Alot of our current Navy SEALs in Iraq are basically acting like a 'Super SWAT' team and raiding insurgent leaders houses, etc. Not too many 'black ops' needed in Iraq or Afghanistan, although they do require some secrecy before the mission. If anyone is doing the 'black ops' it is the British SAS and Delta, and it is not very probable<< when did a hat start performing special operation's?, last time I asked they were US Army Special forces, you call him a "green beret"he won't answear you, but any way the SEAL's are carrying out DA and SR mission's in A-stan and Iraq more so then the SF who do more long range mobility patrol's, house raid's and training of local forces, that's the main difference between the two
 
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MedullaPancreas       4/14/2007 4:40:00 PM

"last time I asked they were US Army Special forces, you call him a 'green beret' he won't answear you,"

So we should refer to him, in the singular, as Special Forces? (IE: "That man's a Special Forces?")

I guess we might as well stop calling Marines "leathernecks" since The Stock was a thing once worn around the necks of a Marine and doesn't actually have arms and legs?
 
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GOP       4/14/2007 4:43:33 PM



"last time I asked they were US Army Special forces, you call him a 'green beret' he won't answear you,"



So we should refer to him, in the singular, as Special Forces? (IE: "That man's a Special Forces?")

I guess we might as well stop calling Marines "leathernecks" since The Stock was a thing once worn around the necks of a Marine and doesn't actually have arms and legs?

No smart-ass, you would say "He is a special forces operator".
 
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mough       4/14/2007 5:39:26 PM
Call them what you want, but you call them a "Green beret" to his face, he won't take it well....just a word of caution, mmmh who gives a fuck say what you want...
 
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SpaceSimba       1/1/2011 4:04:58 PM
Oh goodness. This is a bit late, but whatever.
SEALs are pretty much the perfect, ideal soldier. Trained in about the ways you could image (not to downplay it, at all!) Rapid Response, they get the food they need, the tech they need, and most times the support they need. your "black ops" would be more like these guys.
Green Berets (completely synonymous with SF, quit your blabbing) are almost the opposite. Backwoods. Snake Eaters. Their mainly for raising armies out of small resistances, making and keeping trust between the US and that populace, and being nets of local intel. (who the good guys are, who the bad guys are, finding hidden caches, raiding local houses) They are long term deployed compared to SEALs. They are trained to Survive against all odds, and to not break if they become a POW; trained with languages and with a portion of comms, medical, engineering, or weapons, but specifically and thoroughly trained in one of those.
In essence, SEALs are perfect, so to speak, and Green Berets are versatile.
I've seen them do eachothers jobs, and both do just as good of a job as the other.
Both their training is roughly two years.
Both of them have their own (so to speak) Counter Terrorism (Team 6, and Delta; both are puns of the official structure of each force. SEALs have teams, 1-10 (minus 6) and Special Forces have Special Forces Operation Detachment Alpha, Bravo, And Charlie, not Delta) that collect a decimal amount of the very very best of each group.
I do not in any way mean to make either force sound easy. Both forces are Elite. And you have to either already be, or cling to the dream of success to get through their training, despite differences. Also, if you are ONLY trying because you just want to say you're awesome, you've got a long, hard, painful road ahead, and you will cry, and not at all be awesome.
There's a damn good reason why they're both called Silent Professionals. Modesty is their greatest tactic, and it's usually part of their personality to begin with, to an extent. Heroes aren't made, they're born. It takes a different kind of man to do what they do.
 
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