The SAS have never failed on a mission. Great history and tradition from the days of David Sterling in the western desert till now. Elite military tactics were all developed by SAS. HALO,is an sas innovation. Remember Falklands war SAS units jumped from 40,000 feet into the freezing south atlantic in the dead of night and swam 2 miles to shore to disrupt Argentine forces on land. Has SEALS ever done anything like that successfully? Remember the SAS unit in Iraq that was descovered behind enemy lines by the kid who they refused to kill. They took on the Iraqi forces and traveled nearly 200 miles or so eluding the Iraqis  to the Syrian border,only 2 of them survived but they killed a lot of Iraqi's for each SAS man killed.There are a lot of counter insergence operations the SAS do we dont even know about. If you are a terrorist and they are sent to get you they are going to get you. Also each SAS man is not only trained but highly skilled in a vast varity of weapons You can do a lot of TRAINING but accumplishing the mission is another thing. To answer one post, if the British wanted to take an oil rig from terrorists they would use the SBS. The Special Air Service motto "He who dares wins" is not a joke.

Great post, but being unwilling to shoot a kid who later showed such ingratitude or enough incompetence to snitch on them may have been a mistake and cost lives on both sides, though of course in most ways it was the morally correct thing to do.

 

Anyho, the reason I'm replying is due to the covert nature of special forces missions, especially SAS counterterrorist mission I very much doubt they have never failed one.  

Navy Seals are far more elite then the royal marine commandos and there just as good if not better than the British  S.A.S.

(sorry -- I tried posting last night from the iphone and could only write in the "Reply Title" field.)

 

So -- I see the brits tend to think their forces are better and the Americans tend to back theirs.

 

Let's start at the top. I don't know the Brit units as well so past the very top level, I'm not sure

 

 

Level 1. Delta & DEVGRU vs. SAS & SBS

Level 2. US Army Special Forces & SEALs & Force Recon vs. British Marine Commandos(?)

Level 3: US Army Rangers vs. British ?

 

I have a few questions:

 

1) Assuming that Delta (AKA "CAG") is at least slightly better than Army Special Forces (AKA "Green Berets"), and that Delta is fairly even with SAS, is it safe to assume that SAS is definitely better than Army Special Forces?

 

2) Assuming DEVGRU is just a notch above the SEALs, and if SEALs and SBS are about even, can we assume that DEVGRU is a notch above SBS?

 

And this is more of an original question -- I haven't seen this anywhere on the interwebs:

 

3) Are Army Rangers and regular US Marines about even? I have heard that Marines are better trained than regular Army troops; are they as well trained as Rangers then?

 

And...

 

4) Since it seems CIA's Special Operations Group (SOG) pulls most of their operatives from Delta/Special Forces/DEVGRU (etc.), are they as capable as any of the aforementioned groups... even Delta and SAS?

 

Thanks in advance for conscientious answers.

 

The SAS have never failed on a mission. Great history and tradition from the days of David Sterling in the western desert till now. Elite military tactics were all developed by SAS. HALO,is an sas innovation. Remember Falklands war SAS units jumped from 40,000 feet into the freezing south atlantic in the dead of night and swam 2 miles to shore to disrupt Argentine forces on land. Has SEALS ever done anything like that successfully? Remember the SAS unit in Iraq that was descovered behind enemy lines by the kid who they refused to kill. They took on the Iraqi forces and traveled nearly 200 miles or so eluding the Iraqis  to the Syrian border,only 2 of them survived but they killed a lot of Iraqi's for each SAS man killed.There are a lot of counter insergence operations the SAS do we dont even know about. If you are a terrorist and they are sent to get you they are going to get you. Also each SAS man is not only trained but highly skilled in a vast varity of weapons You can do a lot of TRAINING but accumplishing the mission is another thing. To answer one post, if the British wanted to take an oil rig from terrorists they would use the SBS. The Special Air Service motto "He who dares wins" is not a joke.

Who told you the SAS have never failed in a mission...because that person is full of bovine excrement.

 

And HALO jumping was not invented by the SAS ....That's like saying combat swimming was invented by the SBS.

Again different priorities, some do things "better" then others and so on







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