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Subject: NAVY SEALS VS BRITISH SAS
LJ813    7/1/2005 9:34:17 PM
I WILL GO FOR THE NAVY..
 
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jamesbaf       6/14/2007 6:05:41 PM
The British SAS are far more superior to the US Delta(US Army Rangers are rubbish and are the equivalent to the British Para's).The British SBS are superior to the US Navy SEALS and that is just the way things are.
 
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dirtykraut       6/14/2007 11:44:52 PM
"DELTA and SWAT are good too on US soil ."
 
Delta is not allowed to be used on US soil. There were a few CAG advisors at WAKO but as far as I know they are forbidden from operating within the country's borders.
 
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bob the brit       6/15/2007 12:46:29 AM
F**K IT... I"VE HAD ENOUGH:
this is the comment to end all comments (mough don't take that as a cue to come up with something witty for yourself, this is my fifteen minutes of fame)...
 
the best at anything military (be it naval, army, or by air) are the vatican swiss guards...
 why, i here voices ask?
 
-the don't need guns they use spears
-their yellow and purple camouflague is revolutionary (so good that opponents mistake them for non-combatants)
-their clown shoes are made from the lightest, toughest, and holiest cloth around
-(for those who've seen a picture of their uniforms)... there's no telling what or even how many tricks the've got up their sleeves
-and finally they work for the leader of the catholic church thus it is safe to say that the christian almighty is on their side... and i'd imagine he's a bit more effective that napalm and nukes
 
how odd it is that there are many too concerned about the size of their pecker to understand what really matters when it comes to this and other subjects. i very much doubt dominantly female message boards have threads that secretly read "my tits are firmer or bigger than yours", however i shall get back into guise as briget the briton and see, full debrief at 0400 zulu on saturday (just after tea) (oh what a sad sad man i must be to have written all that
 
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GOP       6/20/2007 3:45:20 PM

Let me give an insight view as I 've been in the SpecOps .



The US Navy Seals are not as good than the SBS . Let 's be clear about it .

Duplex hasn 't been in the Specs or he wouldn 't write things like :



""The best Special Force for operations in coastal environment
1-US Navy Seals 2-SBS""



I rate the Italian COMSUBIN and the French Commando Hubert as the best
combat divers of all . The SBS are very good at beach intel gathering
and penetration  , they 're on a par with sabotage . The Navy
Seals are not even in the top 5 .

(Italian , French , British , Spanish , Grecs)



or :

""The best in Jungle
1- Army Green Berets 2-SAS.""



The best in the jungle is the French Foreign Legion , and miles ahead .
Their Guyana course is legendary amongst Specialists . They ~the
Others~ all come to see what is all about and they go back enlighted
and disgusted .



or :

""The best in  the desert
 SAS,SAS,SAS, and only SAS""



Since 1990 , the SAS has been training 99% of its time in desert ground , in preperation of GW1 . They still keep training .

I have to say that the Israeli Sayeret Matkal are the second best in desert .



or :

""The best in counterterrorism
 1-SAS,2-DELTA,3-Navy Seal""



It depends what you call counterterrorism . If you 're talking about
assault on terrorist cells or hostage rescue , the French GIGN is still
the yardstick . The SAS follow very close . DELTA and SWAT are good too
on US soil .

I base my opinion on what I 've learned , who I spoke to , who I trained with and the rumors amongst Units .



Cheers .











Bluewings, I find it funny that you say that the French GIGN are the best at assault on terrorist cells and HR...seeing as you are French .
 
Let's just make it official: The Teams suck balls at just about everything.
CAG is not allowed to operate in the US. Now, I realize that you have been in SOF and probably have heard rumors or something similar of them operating in the US, but I can almost guarantee you they don't. There is no need for them, as FBI HRT are equivalant to CAG with the only difference being that HRT is geared toward Law Enforcement ROE's and CAG's obviously have much more aggressive military ROE's. What unit would you say "SWAT" is? US "SWAT" teams come in every shape, size, and experience level imaginable. My local SWAT team (I live in a small town of about 7,000) trains 8 hours a month, and are only a part time team...also, not much action around my city at all (to say the very, very least), so they aren't exactly on top of their game. Now, a unit like LAPD SWAT or Dallas SWAT are completely full time, have very, very stringent selection processes, and see a TON of action...those guys are very near Tier 1 level, if not Tier 1. 
 
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dirtykraut       6/20/2007 4:23:08 PM
GOP I wouldn't go so far as to say that HRT is the law enforcement counterpart of CAG. While CAG was orignially tasked with military CT, they have moved on and do much more than that now, to my understanding. When CAG was formed in 77, they were mainly a counterterrorist organization as the US did not have a CT unit anywhere at the time. Even back then they had specialized recconnaissence teams. As time went by, other units got tasked with the CT mission as well, CAG took on other missions as well. It would be criminal to have men of their ability to focus only on one mission. Maybe the Army believed that as well.
 
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GOP       6/21/2007 2:24:16 AM

GOP I wouldn't go so far as to say that HRT is the law enforcement counterpart of CAG. While CAG was orignially tasked with military CT, they have moved on and do much more than that now, to my understanding. When CAG was formed in 77, they were mainly a counterterrorist organization as the US did not have a CT unit anywhere at the time. Even back then they had specialized recconnaissence teams. As time went by, other units got tasked with the CT mission as well, CAG took on other missions as well. It would be criminal to have men of their ability to focus only on one mission. Maybe the Army believed that as well.


Sorry for not making it clear, I primarily meant that HRT focuses on Hostage rescue, extremely sensitive missions, and ops very important to national security, so they are the Tier 1 SWAT unit in the US.
 
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reall brit patriot    sas for life   7/22/2007 7:01:15 PM
the british SAS and the navy seals can be compared in an easy way.the british SAS training is a hel of allot harder than the seals training i know i done them both i was in the SAS for 12 years acheiveing 6 medals  including gallantry and silver star took part in a series of special forces missions including 3 years in Iraq and 4 in afhanistan i also nearly went to korea with the navy seals but i dropped out for family reasons.  .the seals have a week of hell thats is beleive it or not is called 'hell week'and it is everyones personal hell.but the SAS also have a week of 'hell' called 'murder week'and that is 80% of everyone theres personal hell the SAS training included 10,000 metres in 14 minutes and i did it with 30 seconds to spare it was horrific.you cant feel anything mentally or physically.the seals often recruit from the SAS beacuse of their professionalism i broke the SAS record for longest underwater end to end swimming pool(olympic sized).i got into the seals beacuse of which i said before i was recruited to go to america for the seals their training is not as strenuous as the SAS training.I took part in the iranian embassy seige in london  that ended succsesfully i reember shooting my first human being its not a nice feeling but it is at the same time you see al quaeda forces shooting at your comrades you just shooting anything with a turban until it stops moving.i can asure you that the best weapon ever made is the US made m16 assault rifle so much lighte than the british sa-14 lee enfield assalt rifle  the m16 is far more accurate i even dissobeyed a direct order to use the british sa-14 because i beleived it put my own life at risk i was demoted to captain.there was a time in a fort-style area that we held with  join us marines.i was wounded by a us marine which didnt go down well with my unit it sparked 'friendly war'  but our special forces training gave us the edge in every way.I can safeley say that  the british SAS is far better than the US NAVY SEALS.apart from the weaponry which the us stands above alll on.
 
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reall brit patriot    sas for life   7/22/2007 7:18:05 PM
hi me again.id like to say that the italian spanish french and greek dont have a real 'special forces'now your probably some kid who is just making stuff up but you dont know anything about special forces until youve served under 'The regiment' (the SAS) they are the best of the best the order of the sepcial forces as far as i know from past experience is.
1.SAS.British -GHOURKAS
2.ASAS.(AUSTRALIAN SAS)
3.ROYAL COMMANDOS.
4.US NAVY SEALS.
5.fRENCH GIGN
 
 
 
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Lynstyne       7/23/2007 4:16:14 AM
SA 14 assault rifle you got an image of that
 
 
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Lynstyne       7/23/2007 4:20:51 AM
sorry bloody internet prob and keyboard trouble
 
was meant to read Not familliar with the designation SA 14 assault rifle you got an image of that.
 
were you a direct entry when you joined them -or did you transfer accross from 49 para.
 
 
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