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Subject: Was the F-111 the wrong aircraft for Australia?
Volkodav    4/12/2010 7:16:29 AM
With the benefit of hindsight can it be said that the F-111 was the wrong aircraft for Australia? It was very expensive when we ordered it and its eventual price was astronomical for the time. The delivery schedule was tight with the Canberra already obsolescent, its final delivery date was unacceptable and required the leasing of an interim capability (24 F-4E Phantoms). It's through life costs were extremely high and while it eventually (after expensive upgrades) became a very capable platform we never used it in action and reliability was always an issue. What was the opportunity cost of the F-111 purchase? What level of capability could the money and resourses have been used for instead? Just a suggestion but how about 50 F-4C (1965) + 12 RF-4C (1968) + 50 F-4E (1972) + 30 to 50 A-4 Skyhawks (1965), supported by 12 KC-135.
 
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Volkodav       4/20/2010 7:10:11 AM
The through life costs of the F-111 were so horrendous I wonder if it would, in actual fact, have been cheaper to have gone for something like the A-7 Corsair supported by tankers, specialized rec, SEAD aircraft and maybe a squadron of AG's Maritime Patrol Bombers.  If we had gone for F-8 Crusaders instead of the Mirage the rec platform would be the RF-8 while a kitted up two seat A-7 could handle SEAD.
 
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Aussiegunneragain       4/21/2010 5:03:21 AM

The through life costs of the F-111 were so horrendous I wonder if it would, in actual fact, have been cheaper to have gone for something like the A-7 Corsair supported by tankers, specialized rec, SEAD aircraft and maybe a squadron of AG's Maritime Patrol Bombers.  If we had gone for F-8 Crusaders instead of the Mirage the rec platform would be the RF-8 while a kitted up two seat A-7 could handle SEAD.

I was thinking along the same lines myself. The problem with the Pig is that it was really a bit too complex and expensive to commit to many tactical missions such as CAS that only needed smaller bomb loads and didn't need the high end avionics like TFR. It would have been an expensive way to bomb a company of enemy troops, an artillery battery or a column of trucks, especially if it got shot down by small arms fire prior to the days of of high altitude PGM release. In the strategic and maritime roles it was a bit deficient in range, crew comfort and bomb load, especially for an isolated country like Australia. I think that a single seat striker like the A-4, A-7 or Jaguar (depending on when the purchase needed to be made) combined with a strategic bomber with martime mods would have been a better fit for Australia.
 
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Aussiegunneragain    Drop   4/21/2010 5:05:26 AM

I have to ask after all those years of you posting links to that site, are any of those models yours?

 
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DropBear    AG   4/22/2010 2:28:22 AM
Not the profiles (they are neither my artworks or models), however, I am on that site (whatifmodellers) and I have done many weird kitbashes over the years.
 
 
 
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Volkodav       5/23/2010 9:47:11 AM
Got a few what ifs in various stages of construction and hope to have enough spare time in the next decade or so to actually finish them.  Then again when my boss was talking to us about doing a grad cert he went on to hint that it would be good to go onto the masters and maybe the doctorate!!!!!!!! 
I may need to wait until I retire at age 75 or something http://www.strategypage.com/CuteSoft_Client/CuteEditor/Images/emsad.gif" alt="" />
 
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