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Subject: Should the real Liberals split from the Conservatives?
Aussiegunneragain    12/12/2009 6:14:28 AM
Given that the god-bothering loonies have taken over the Liberal party and formed an unholy alliance with the same element in the Nationals, is it time for moderate Liberals to consider splitting and forming a new party? I know that it would probably mean having Labor in power for longer, but I personally find Abbott and his mates to be just as objectionable and dangerous as the worst in the ALP Left so it would really make no difference to me if the non-Labor parties stayed out of power for a while longer. It seems to me that Australians have no credible economically dry but socially moderate party (like New Zealand's Association of Consumers and Taxpayers or the UK's Liberal Democratic party) to vote for and that such a party may not only take some blue ribbon inner-city seats away from the Libs, but might have enough appeal with swinging voters to contest ALP marginals and Senate seat from the Libs, Greens and ALP as well. The next question is who would be the best leader. Malcolm Turnbull springs to mind.
 
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Volkodav       12/13/2009 4:13:04 AM
Reith?
 
Although I would put him before Abbot I look at it a bit like prefering to die from heart failure rather than cancer, i.e. I really don't want to make the choice at all.
 
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Aussiegunneragain       12/13/2009 5:40:43 AM

Reith?

Although I would put him before Abbot I look at it a bit like prefering to die from heart failure rather than cancer, i.e. I really don't want to make the choice at all.


Most people only saw him as the hard man on IR reform (which I admire but the majority of Australians don't) but there was a lot more to him if you looked into it. He was socially progressive on a number of issues, for example he advocated citizen initiated referenda and was a republican, and he was an excellent negotiator who had a better understanding of Senate machenations than most Senators. I think had he not committed political suicide with the phone card affair he could have re-made himself in the public's eye by the time Howard was ready to retire. Howard liked him as well and would probably have supported that.
 
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