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Subject: Something I've been pondering for a while
Aussiegunneragain    11/1/2009 2:19:54 AM
Since we are neighbours with Indonesia there are over 200 million people there and a lot of Indonesians are poor, why haven't we had a lot more immigration from there? According to the link below there are only about 67,000 people of Indonesian birth living in Australia, way down the list. Any ideas? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Australia#Country_of_birth
 
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Aussiegunneragain       11/1/2009 2:21:05 AM
 
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albywan       11/1/2009 2:50:52 PM
because they are poor, uneducated, and don't speak english.
 
Immigration (legal immigration) require the immigrant to ususally meet certian criteria, such as having skills required in the country, or having resources that are values in the country.
 
+ the historical "White Australia" policy will slant these figures...
 
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DropBear       11/1/2009 7:52:01 PM
Maybe many Indonesians with a poorer level of education believe that Australians wouldn't want them living here.
 
Our Govs have had frosty relations for several decades with our military equipment purchased to counteract one another (or so it has been said over the years), for example, F-111's to be able to fly to and from Jakarta etc.
 
Curious.
 
 
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Aussiegunneragain       11/2/2009 3:27:42 AM
Re the comments about poverty, skills and "White Australia", we have twice as many Phillipinos here as Indonesians and they are generally poor and not white. We have about 3 or 4 times as many mainland Chinese as well. I wouldn't have thought that poor relations between the countries would have impacted on the movement of refugees, it is a personal rather than a government decision for people to move. The reason I'm especially surprised is because of the religious violence in Indonesia in recent years. I would have thought we'd have a flood of Indonesian Christians from places like Ambon and Suluwesi rather than a trickle.
 
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hairy man       11/2/2009 5:55:10 PM
I have had thoughts along similar lines, especially with the troubles in Ambon etc.  Is it because we are reluctant to encourage refugees from Indonesia, not wanting to upset Indonesia, or do the Indonesians have a better standard of living than the other people in the region?
 
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Arty Farty       11/3/2009 8:58:59 AM
Economically Australia competes with Indonesia (resources). China and Japan are complimentary, greater incentive for companies to develop links.

Other factors;
 
white aust policy: one of the loudest proponents were working class nationalist. They feared competition from manual workers from the chinese and pacific islanders (they also feared transported convicts).
 
the dutch:  indonesia used to lean towards the dutch empire for trade and cultural ties
 
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