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Subject: I like this one
Aussiegunneragain    9/23/2009 4:36:05 AM
At his meeting with Queen Elizabeth recently, Kevin Rudd turned to the Queen and said: As I'm the Prime Minister, I'm thinking of changing how my great country is referred to, and I'm thinking that it should be a Kingdom." The Queen replied, "I'm sorry Mr. Rudd, but to be a Kingdom, you have to have a King in charge - and you're not a King." Kevin Rudd thought a while and then said: "How about a Principality then?" To which the Queen replied, "Again, to be a Principality you have to be a Prince - and you're not a Prince, Mr. Rudd." Rudd thought long and hard and came up with "How about an Empire then?" The Queen, getting a little annoyed by now, replied : "Sorry again, Mr. Rudd, but to be an Empire you must have an Emperor in charge - and you are not an Emperor." Before Rudd could utter another word, The Queen said: "I think you're doing quite nicely as a Country."
 
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Enterpriser    Love it!......but....   9/23/2009 8:31:47 AM
....you're gonna get keel-hauled for it when BF and Abe see/hear it!
 
Brett.
 
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Aussiegunneragain    Brett   9/23/2009 8:39:24 AM

....you're gonna get keel-hauled for it when BF and Abe see/hear it!

 

Brett.



Knowing what BF thinks of Rudd I doubt it, though he will probably having a hard time resisting saying "but John Howard was one of those too" ;-).
 
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bigfella       9/23/2009 8:48:02 AM




....you're gonna get keel-hauled for it when BF and Abe see/hear it!



 



Brett.








Knowing what BF thinks of Rudd I doubt it, though he will probably having a hard time resisting saying "but John Howard was one of those too" ;-).


Correct weight AG. I like a lot of what he's done (starting with beating Johnny boy) but think the joke nails him perfectly. You are also correct about Howard. 
 
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Enterpriser       9/23/2009 8:55:48 AM
Well......that was.......less violent than expected ;P
 
I was just about to go and get the popcorn ready!  lol
 
Brett.
 
PS. Out of curiousity, who, If you had your way BF, would you have in the top job in place of KRudd?
 
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Aussiegunneragain       9/24/2009 8:02:34 AM

Well......that was.......less violent than expected ;P

I was just about to go and get the popcorn ready!  lol

Brett.

PS. Out of curiousity, who, If you had your way BF, would you have in the top job in place of KRudd?


I'll weigh into this one and say Gillard. I don't like the ideological position she comes from but from what I've heard in Canberra from numerous sources she's proved herself to be pragmatic, bloody smart, personable, compassionate and a damn hard worker. The current saying is that she is the only alternative PM in Canberra right now.
 
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Aussiegunneragain    BF   9/24/2009 8:08:11 AM


Correct weight AG. I like a lot of what he's done (starting with beating Johnny boy) but think the joke nails him perfectly. You are also correct about Howard. 


The difference between Howard and Rudd is that Howard made many tough political decisions that made a lot of people think he was a you know what, but was by all accounts (including those of his opponents) a gentleman to deal with.
Rudd only makes populist decisions and most people don't know what he is like first hand, so they go by the "Sunrise" spin and think he is a good bloke. Those who know something of what he is like first hand think he is a you know what (including his political allies).

 
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gf0012-aust       9/24/2009 4:47:08 PM

Rudd only makes populist decisions and most people don't know what he is like first hand, so they go by the "Sunrise" spin and think he is a good bloke. Those who know something of what he is like first hand think he is a you know what (including his political allies).


I met him in Eagle St prior to him kicking the career goal.  He was a smug little prick and was not short of colourful language when he disagreed with the message.

I object to his cultivation of class when I know first hand that he can be just as much a conversational peasant as Richardson and Tuckey.  The diff being that Richardson was visibly a cheek kisser and that Tuckey is too dumb to be politically aware of the impact of a lack of self control.

Rudd is a smart political animal.  The general public don't give 2 schitts about the flaws in his character as they haven't seen enough of it exposed.

Irrespective of my own political disconnect with respect to howard, the man was consistent.


 
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bigfella       9/25/2009 10:47:34 AM

Well......that was.......less violent than expected ;P

 

I was just about to go and get the popcorn ready!  lol

 

Brett.

 

PS. Out of curiousity, who, If you had your way BF, would you have in the top job in place of KRudd?



Once again you misjudge me Brett.
 
I wouldn't have anyone else in charge right now. The fact that I think Rudd is a smug two faced God bothering little turd is insignificant compared to my belief that he is the right person for the job right now. Having managed a potentially huge economic crisis better than any PM I can recall (Howard didn't really face one, but he botched it when he was treasurer - yeah, yeah, I know, somebody else's fault) I am hoping he will now get down to some decent reform. He is the only person in the party right now with the political capital to do that.
 
My main concern is that he may be so full of himself that he doesn't know when it is time to go. Hopefully when that time comes Gillard, Swan or the relevant powerbrokers have more balls than Costello did (OK, unfair comparison, eunuchs have more balls than the spineless one, but you get the drift). For the moment, however, he is the right man for the job. Gillard is probably the only other person in the party right now who is up to the job, but I don't think a fix is warranted until the machine is broken.
 
as a p.s., I have a lot more time for Turnbull personally & to an extent politically. I actually think he's more socially liberal than Rudd. He's just in the wrong party.
 
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Aussiegunneragain       9/26/2009 12:29:39 AM


 Having managed a potentially huge economic crisis better than any PM I can recall (Howard didn't really face one, but he botched it when he was treasurer - yeah, yeah, I know, somebody else's fault) I am hoping he will now get down to some decent reform. He is the only person in the party right now with the political capital to do that.
L
ets not forget that Rudd inherited a substantially reformed economy (thanks to Hawke, Keating and Howard) as well as an extremely healthy balance sheet (thanks to Howard) which provided him with the means to splash the cash around when the crisis hit. That doesn't change the fact that I think that they broadly got the stimulus right in terms of the amount spent, if not what it was spent on, but it was made much easier by virtue of the tough decisions made by others over the last 25 years. In contrast Howard as Treasurer had to deal with a sclerotic, unreformed economy along with a stupid tit of a PM in Fraser.
 
I don't think anybody could have done better under those circumstances.
 
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