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Subject: Obama: What does his ascendency mean for Australia?
Aussiegunneragain    1/30/2009 6:34:09 PM
Now that Obama has been inaugerated as US President and now that we have started to see what he is about, what are everybodies thoughts on what the implications of his Presidency will be for Oz?
 
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hairy man       1/30/2009 6:42:46 PM
I cant see Obama's Presidency having much affect on us over here.
On Afghanistan, he will want a bigger effort from Australia, but it looks like we are getting ready to enlarge our military presence there anyway. 
He could of course give us access to the F22, but that is unlikely.
He may do more to improve the USA's financial situation, and we would benefit from the flow on affect of that.
 
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gf0012-aust       1/30/2009 8:00:15 PM


On Afghanistan, he will want a bigger effort from Australia, but it looks like we are getting ready to enlarge our military presence there anyway. 

The government has been subtley changing their tune on afghanistan since he got in.

He could of course give us access to the F22, but that is unlikely.

The Obey Amendment was pushed by Senator Obey - a Democrat.  What chance do you think that a Democrat Govt will do a u turn on this - absolutely zero

Gates was a Republican appointee and has been retained by the Democrats.  They sacked the prev USAF chief  for pushing the F-22 and ignoring what they say was a different priority.  Gates still doesn't want the F-22 (this years funding for 4 extra will barely  keep the line active and the workforce active.  It's tokenism

The F-22 is and always was a wet dream for us - people need to seriously move on.


 
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Arty Farty       2/1/2009 1:17:32 AM



On Afghanistan, he will want a bigger effort from Australia, but it looks like we are getting ready to enlarge our military presence there anyway. 



The government has been subtley changing their tune on afghanistan since he got in.


If you were anti-Bush, you're gonna need a new excuse.
Obama has a lot of potential. He spent time in Indonesia and has Indonesian relatives but; as long as Hillary is Sec. of State, its business as usual (ie. Asia being 2nd fiddle).

 
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Aussiegunneragain       2/3/2009 3:18:16 AM









On Afghanistan, he will want a bigger effort from Australia, but it looks like we are getting ready to enlarge our military presence there anyway. 







The government has been subtley changing their tune on afghanistan since he got in.







If you were anti-Bush, you're gonna need a new excuse.


Obama has a lot of potential. He spent time in Indonesia and has Indonesian relatives but; as long as Hillary is Sec. of State, its business as usual (ie. Asia being 2nd fiddle).





So, are you saying that Hillary is ME centric? I don't know her views so I would be interested to hear.
 
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Arty Farty       5/30/2009 12:55:24 AM
Recent NY Times - nytimes.com/2009/05/30/world/asia/30military.html?ref=asia
 
''Although North Korea was the ?hot topic? at the conference, as Mr. Gates put it to reporters on his plane en route to Singapore, he also used the forum to appeal to Asian allies for help, both financial and military, with the war in Afghanistan.

?I know some in Asia have concluded that Afghanistan does not represent a strategic threat to their countries, owing in part to Afghanistan?s geographic location,? Mr. Gates said. ?But the threat from failed or failing states is international in scope.?

In representing Mr. Obama, Mr. Gates sought to draw a distinction between the new president and his predecessor. Mr. Gates noted that Mr. Obama had spent part of his childhood in Indonesia and that it was the first time ?that we have had a president with such a personal connection to the region.?''

 
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Arty Farty       11/16/2009 6:11:53 AM
nytimes.com/2009/11/14/world/asia/14prexy.html?hp
 
Obama declares himself the first 'pacific president'
 
 ?My own life is part of that story,? he said. ?I am an American president who was born in Hawaii and lived in Indonesia as a boy. My sister Maya was born in Jakarta and later married a Chinese-Canadian. My mother spent nearly a decade working in the villages of Southeast Asia, helping women buy a sewing machine or an education that might give them a foothold in the world economy.?
 
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Hamilcar       11/23/2009 8:18:09 AM

nytimes.com/2009/11/14/world/asia/14prexy.html?hp

 

Obama declares himself the first 'pacific president'


 

 ?My own life is part of that story,? he said. ?I am an American president who was born in Hawaii and lived in Indonesia as a boy. My sister Maya was born in Jakarta and later married a Chinese-Canadian. My mother spent nearly a decade working in the villages of Southeast Asia, helping women buy a sewing machine or an education that might give them a foothold in the world economy.?
Note how it is me, me, me, and not a word about the job he is expected and HIRED to do.

Hallmark of a would be caudillo.is narcissism. There are many Americans furious with this incompetent.
 
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Zhang Fei       11/25/2009 11:01:35 AM
Obama declares himself the first 'pacific president'
 
Ogabe sure has some ego. The first Pacific president was probably Zachary Taylor, who had Commodore Perry force the opening of Japan in 1854. Since then, we've had a long line of Pacific presidents, including the presidents under which American forces fought the Spanish, Filipino, Chinese, Japanese, North Korean and North Vietnamese forces in East Asia. None of these great events involved Ogabe. I think Ogabe will be remembered mainly for playing the role of l'Imbecile bowing to l'Empereur.
 
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