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Subject: C-130 Hercules fleet grounded...
fall out    9/16/2008 9:47:37 PM
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24359215-2,00.html THE Defence Force has grounded its fleet of Hercules C-130 transport aircraft after an "unusual" fault prompted an emergency landing. The fault was detected on Monday night during a training flight near Richmond, north-west of Sydney, a Defence spokeswoman told Fairfax newspapers. Following the incident, all 24 of the RAAF's Hercules planes were grounded for all non-essential flights until the cause had been detected. Defence said a plane had declared an emergency on Monday about 8.25pm (AEST) after its crew detected a fault with the nose-wheel. At 8.55pm the crew put in a mayday call but landed safely at the Richmond Base 20 minutes later
 
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DropBear       9/17/2008 12:15:14 AM
Surprised they didn't ground just twelve.
 
Article doesn't say whether it was an C-130H or C-130J-30.
 
Both variants are significantly different to surely not need both types sucking asphalt?
 
Curious.
 
 
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doggtag    if they grounded them all, Drop,...   9/17/2008 9:55:56 AM
...then it's a sign that it could well a problem with a component or part(s) common to both the older Hercs and the newer J-models.
 
See, this is the biggest problem the bean counters always fail to see and plan for: when you have one basic design for all your fixed wing airlift, and one problem like this creeps up,
having the whole fleet grounded suddenly means your airlift capability is zero unless you have plans to lease someone else's.
 
Same thing for when any given nation decides that just one fighter aircraft type, or tanker aircraft, or maritime aircraft, or bomber, or helo, or whatever: one base design means one wrong problem can ground your entire fleet.
 
And the sad part is, the bean counters and system procurers would rather look at the odds of it even happening at all, rather than accepting reality and realizing that it has happened before, does still happen now, and will continue to happen, no matter how promising the reliability the aircraft(s) is/are marketed as having.
We can't always base our nations' defenses solely around what the odds say are or aren't in our favor.
Expensive, yes it is, to procure at least two separate designs rather than a single, but when one half of your forces are temporary out of duty for just such unforeseen circumstances, you at least still have the other half remaining.
 
The good news is, none of your current neighbors are so openly hostile to you to the point that they would see just such an occurence as the perfect tactical advantage to launch any surprise military strikes against you...
Maybe the bean counters and procurers are always counting on things being that way...?
(and for everyone's sake, we hope it remains so.)
 
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DropBear       9/17/2008 11:34:18 PM
This is why I am glad that tactrans has finally gotten some money over the last few years.
 
At least we now have some better options to play with since the introduction of the C-17.
 
 
 
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gf0012-aust       9/18/2008 1:30:03 AM
It was a C130H
 
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DropBear       9/18/2008 1:45:24 AM
Any gossip as to when the H-Models will ultimately leave service?
 
I would have thought that all that stirling service since 1978 would have left its toll on the fleet by now.
 
Curious.
 
 
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