"Turks are on the earth for at least 4000 years" According to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks#Turkic_Roots): "The term "Turk" was first officially used as a political name in the 6th century. Turkic nationalists claim that the expansion of proto-Turkic peoples across Eurasia involved the Scythians (Ishkuz), Xiongnu, Huns, Sarmatians, Khazars, Pechenegs, Alans, Cimmerians, Massagetae and other steppe populations. While some of these peoples may have represented, to some extent, a proto-Turkic or Turkic tribe or confederation, the majority are considered largely non-Turkic. Certainly in later times the Khazars and the Pechenegs were Turkic, but the Cimmerians, Massagetae, Sarmatians and Scythians are thought to have been Indo-European speakers." So, in a more meaningful way, Turks have "been on the earth" for 1400 years. "I mean none of other nations are ancient like us" Europeans can trace their ancestry back to Greece and further to the Indo-European (aka Aryan) tribes of India. We don't, since we have more interesting ways of studying history.. "You all came from same barbarian Tribes(europeans)" Why is it that when referring to ancient europeans they are "barbarian"(=bad) but when referring to ancient Turks they are simply an "ancient culture"? I'm willing to wager that the tribal Turks of the steppes were every bit as barbaric and primitiv as Europeans at their worst. Probably more so, since people of the steppes are historically known for being cruel and primitiv (example's like the Huns or Mongols comes to mind). "Of course greeks are not in this.because they are an ancient nation and they are great" You can't really divide the people of Europe in Saxon barbarians and the great Greeks. Greek thinking and culture has been a major impact on Europe historically, and also vice versa. "+I have a stupid theory:" You're right. It really is a stupid theory. The Sibiric tribes that migrated to America did so between 17,000 and 11,000 years ago, long before there was any people even beginning to resemble Turks. To give you some credit, a recent study by Ilya Zakharov, deputy director of Moscow's Vavilov Institute of General Genetics, seem to prove the Indians relationship to the Tuvians, a people of Siberia related to what would eventually become Turks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Peoples_of_the_Americas#Origins

>> i believe indians are another Turkish tribe << Good lord, you had me worried there for a moment. Pakistanis have spent the last 60 years proving/trying to prove they are NOT Indians... inventing every possible geneology (including extra-terrestrial amongst others). It is true that they have some Pakistani families/clans Turkic blood in them. So it was really scary that you mentioned "Indians" -- I thought it was some ploy to get back into India (just as we are improving now).

"Pakistanis have spent the last 60 years proving/trying to prove they are NOT Indians... inventing every possible geneology (including extra-terrestrial amongst others). It is true that they have some Pakistani families/clans Turkic blood in them." A clear case of modern Lysenkoism. Pakistan is part of India historically and culturally.